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Corsa III's, First impressions.
Wasnt blown away at first, to be honest. They dont "fall" into turns like the PPs, but are much more consistant i noticed. They are very consistant throughout the turn. IE it is not harder to get farther over. they just seem to get down with ease at far angles.
I was just testing some superslab onramps at a nimble speed, and while at a cloverleaf while leaning pretty far, i decided to see how much farther i could get them over and it caught me off guard how smooth and effortless the transition was, even for how far i was off the bike. So over all i wouldnt say the fall in is any better or worse than Pilot powers, its just different. Its almost like PP's WANT to get that extreme lean angle asap, and the corsa is more about controlling the lean angle. This was extremely apparent in switchbacks. getting the bike down, then up, then down again was effortless. I was very happy with the precision of the tire. Stickyness? well the tires are just being broken in, so i cant really say too much about em in that respect. They FEEL good in corners, like you're riding on glue. I have to say that i felt much better taking hard turns in these than the 208's. had no slippage issues. When in the corner you really feel like you're connected to the ground, you don't have that "floaty" unattached feel (like i got from the 208s) Not much more to say about em now, they're new tires, anything new is gonna be better than the take offs. As for if i'll buy em again i wont be able to say till i take em somewhere challenging. |
You really need to hit the heat cycle to get the sticky feel. Plus PPs really nice fall in is only good for the first 500 miles or so before the tire flattens, I always hate when that fall in goes away on the PPs.
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I didnt really get into anything until i did some real hard stops and accelerations. Really just doing everything i could for about the first 30 miles to get them heated up. Im really impressed with them around the twisties. They really grip the road well, its the softest compound i've ridden on thus far though. im kinda pissed that by the time i get down to tenn next week they'll be a little boxed out. I plan on taking the superslab at least half the way. especially if theres bad weather. thats pretty much gonna be my break in period for them. |
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Im gonna take the roads i know down to about C-bus, then get on the slab and head for cinci, and then take some SR's to maybe lexington the first day... Shit i leave in 5 days and i haven't planned a route yet. |
My odometer clicked over to 2000 miles. I figure I have about 500 left on the rear :rant: stupid high torque V-twins :rant: Suppose I'll have to pony up for another rear until the front is gone.
Even with it getting squared off from all my commuting, it still has a really easy transition from left to right, with a good overall feel. In all, I love the corsa III's grip and feel, I HATE their wear (or lack thereof) |
They sound awesome, can't wait to try mine out.
I've had them with the bike at this ducati shop for almost 3 weeks waiting for some fucking tool to properly change the tires on marchesini rims. :td: So lame. Hit me up when you're heading near cincy, I'll take you down into kentucky on I-75 south for some badass switchbacks near me. |
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I'll ask a couple friends. |
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if it aint roke dont fix it, PP ftw
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i really liked the stick with my m3's they just wore out in the middle, its funny how a cross country trip can do that, i got 6k out of the middle, not much turning, but when i did get to turn at the dragon they had good feel and plenty of stick
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I hear ya drewpy, I'm sure thats not my last pair of Pilot powers i ever buy, but variety is the spice of life.
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Anyone know anything about the Bridgestone Battleax BT016's?
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got a text message from ceo, he likes the corsa IIIs
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Nice. How's the turn in on the first 28?
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Dial in some preload on the Gix. Then tweak the compression and rebound.
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They're fucking amazing. |
Just looked at my tires again. 1000 miles of street wear after the track day, and you can now see the line between the two different compounds.
Softer compound still has some chunks missing from the stresses of the track day, and is worn lower than the center harder compound. |
all in all, i'm not THRILLED with my corsas. they were great at the gap, but i think i gotta go back to the pilot powers to get a good understanding of how they really perform.
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Powers are the next tire on the 1125, for comparison reasons. I'll see how they wear, and go from there.
PP's should get me into next riding season at least. |
Given large bastard with heavy high torque bike, I end up having to roll with a touring compound tire to get a harder center. Single compound sucks.
I skulled a Pirelli Strada in 1800 miles in north GA. So far, I've tried: Donlop D616--OEM (sucked)--2800 miles Avon Azaro (single compound touring)--sticky, but not as good as the dual and triple compound tires out--4,200 miles Pirelli Strada (single compound touring)--not sticky, mileage sucked--1,800 miles Avon Storm (dual compound touring)--sticky--3,800 miles Pilot Road 2CT (dual compound touring)--very sticky--3,000 miles so far I've also run a set of the Metzler Race Tec for track days. The Pirelli and Metzler share the same carcass and have a similar profile. It is very triangular and falls in hard. Some really like that profile. I don't. On a bike with a longer wheel base, it would be great. On a Buell, it's like riding a knife edge. I prefer a more rounded profile so that I have to work a little bit to bet it over. The PR2CT and the Avon Strada have virtually identical rounded profiles. The edge rubber is sticky on both, but is stickier on the PR2CT. If I can get another 1,000 miles out of the PR2CT, it will become my tire of choice. I've got a couple of buddies running the PP front and PR2CT rear. They like the combo for the center wear and feel the edge stickyness isn't really that much different than the PP rear. I'd love to get 6,000 miles out of a tire. I'd run performance rubber, but I can't see spending more money for a performance tire and get 1,500 miles. |
There is no such thing as a PR2CT, but there is a PR2 and a PP2CT.
Just call them Pilot Road 2's :dthumb: |
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of the PP 2CT's. The manufacturer cant be wrong. http://www.michelinmotorcycle.com/in...recatalog.view |
Hey FT BSTRD, do you regularly eat up the rear faster than the front, or are they wearing close to equal?
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I stand corrected.
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Obviously the center tread wears quickly with slab runs, but with the torque, the edges get pretty feathered as well. I just haven't found a tire that lasts more the 3500-4500 miles. |
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(I will never ever have D220's again, FYI) |
For my next set of tires I might be trying the supercorsas ;)... aka the DOT race tires.
I'm going to go with pirellis since my buddy is one of the vendors at the track and I get get a good price and a quick mount/change. I would like to try to the 2cts at some point to compare to the corsaIIIs though. |
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I wonder how much harder the center compound is on the PR2 vs. the PP2CT. |
You may want to check out the Bridgestone Battlax BT016's. Dual compound front, triple compound on the rear. Good tire, they just need more time to warm up than PP's.
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If that's true, the center of a PP2CT would be the same as the edges of a PR2. |
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I'm sure most of you guys aren't running touring tires, but has anyone tried the Dunlop Road Smart tires?
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im running a set of supercorsas now.... worth writing home about, unreal stick, effortless drop in... im in love
they are super sticky, thats to be expected from a DOT race, but they feel amazing i could almost justify selling a kidney for a set of these for my next trackday, these will prolly be toast by august 2nd :sbg: |
Yeah I think when these corsa III's are toast I'll be going to the new supercorsas... not the dragons but the diablos. I've heard good things.
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i got my paws on the dragons, on the dragon.... mmmm check out mondays pics from killboy the entire 17th page...
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I have zero complaints about the III's. I might not even go back to Pilot Power. They are wearing very evenly. I've done about 200 (maybe) miles of twisties and over 500 commuting miles on them and they look great.
They stick like glue when they are pushed too. |
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I love all the aspects of mine as well, they do wear evenly... just entirely too quickly. |
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im on 1300 this week, if that gives ppl and idea, good wear and plenty of stick still, im impressed with the wear and life i have been abusing these tires over and over at the gap and they keep on ticking, lotsa heat cycles
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