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Triple 09-13-2010 01:18 PM

My MPG is better than your MPG...
 
*sold*

101lifts2 09-13-2010 04:16 PM

Are you going somewhere with this?

derf 09-13-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 408415)
Are you going somewhere with this?

He was actually pointing out the douchbagginess of that car

Homeslice 09-13-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 408415)
Are you going somewhere with this?

:lol

101lifts2 09-13-2010 11:37 PM

Dude an automatic?

I'm assuming you got it because ur chick can't drive a stick.

Homeslice 09-14-2010 12:02 AM

Why plunk down the dough for Amsoil on that kind of car? Unless you're an Amsoil distributor and get it for cheap I guess.

RACER X 09-14-2010 06:53 AM

why not? i run M1 in our 6 y.o. protege5, worth about 4-5k i guess.

just changed oil this weekend.

why run syn in bikes, most are worth less then $9k like that car

askmrjesus 09-14-2010 07:26 AM

Where do the people sit?

JC

pauldun170 09-14-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by askmrjesus (Post 408555)
Where do the people sit?

JC

:lol

Cutty72 09-14-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 408572)


I am an Amsoil dealer. I've been using it in everything except my lawnmowers for the last eight years.

Why not in the mower?

Homeslice 09-14-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 408551)
why not? i run M1 in our 6 y.o. protege5, worth about 4-5k i guess.

just changed oil this weekend.

why run syn in bikes, most are worth less then $9k like that car

I'm just saying that a synthetic oil isn't going to make a difference unless you're planning on keeping it for 200,000 miles or more.

Oil seems to be a big peer pressure thing. :idk: Same goes for 3,000 mile oil changes. They are a waste of money for the vast majority of people. It depends on your driving conditions, distance, weather, etc. If all you do is highway long trips, you're fine with 7,500 mile changes. Short trips on the other hand.......

But whatever makes people feel good.

Sean 09-14-2010 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 408718)
I'm just saying that a synthetic oil isn't going to make a difference unless you're planning on keeping it for 200,000 miles or more.

Oil seems to be a big peer pressure thing. :idk: Same goes for 3,000 mile oil changes. They are a waste of money for the vast majority of people. It depends on your driving conditions, distance, weather, etc. If all you do is highway long trips, you're fine with 7,500 mile changes. Short trips on the other hand.......

But whatever makes people feel good.

haha, really? syn reduces friction better, you get better power and fuel economy with good oil than you do with crap. I felt the difference immediately when I moved to good oil in my last bike and in my truck. Try it sometime, not everyone is as ignorant as you think.

Homeslice 09-14-2010 01:16 PM

You "felt" the difference? Even if you gained 2 hp, that's not enough to feel with a 250hp truck.

I've tried syn plenty of times, never experienced any difference except for better sub-zero starting.

Sean 09-14-2010 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 408741)
You "felt" the difference? Even if you gained 2 hp, that's not enough to feel with a 250hp truck.

I've tried syn plenty of times, never experienced any difference except for better sub-zero starting.

Or how about, I couldn't see out of the mirrors of my bike with dino in, but I can do 450 miles on it without a numb butt with MX4T in. Or that I gained 1+mpg in my truck. This isn't rocket surgery. How many HP does my truck have again?

Homeslice 09-14-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 408747)
When I drain Amsoil after 5,000+ miles of use, it looks the same as when I originally poured it in.

When I used to drain conventional oil after 3,000 miles of use, color would range from dark brown to black glop.

That tells me all I need to know.

Quality filters are important, too, of course.

Dirty oil doesn't necessarily mean it's inferior oil, it might also mean that it contains an aggressive detergent package, and it cleaned out the gunk in your engine. In fact there are a lot of people who say that about Mobil 1.

pauldun170 09-14-2010 01:50 PM

I keep my cars for a long time.
I change my car oil every 3000miles.
I've even changed sythetic oil every 3000miles.

Its appropriate for me since I only drive anywhere from 5K-8K a year with a lot of short trips.

Homeslice 09-14-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 408757)
Or how about, I couldn't see out of the mirrors of my bike with dino in, but I can do 450 miles on it without a numb butt with MX4T in. Or that I gained 1+mpg in my truck. This isn't rocket surgery. How many HP does my truck have again?

You are comparing two different time periods, one with Oil A and another with Oil B. Your truck isn't operating in a controlled test, so there's too many uncontrolled variables (weather, tire pressure, trip distance, etc) for you to declare that your 1 mpg improvement was due to a different brand of oil.

Mudpuppy 09-14-2010 02:00 PM

do i get a free rainbow sticker with the car and free health care but lose my appetite for red meat all while my balls shrivel up and my dick tucks back?

Sean 09-14-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 408763)
You are comparing two different time periods, one with Oil A and another with Oil B. Your truck isn't operating in a controlled test, so there's too many uncontrolled variables (weather, tire pressure, trip distance, etc) for you to declare that your 1 mpg improvement was due to a different brand of oil.

Lacking a time machine, I averaged things over several thousand miles.

Homeslice 09-14-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 408771)
Lacking a time machine, I averaged things over several thousand miles.


OK, but it's not uncommon for engines to deliver different fuel economy as they age.

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Originally Posted by Mudpuppy (Post 408767)
do i get a free rainbow sticker with the car and free health care but lose my appetite for red meat all while my balls shrivel up and my dick tucks back?

I actually think the Yaris is good-looking for what it is. Way better than a Fit.

pauldun170 09-14-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 408777)
People interested in practical, economical transportation are gay?

Better sell the motorcycle.

I see a couple Yarii (3 dr configuration) in the train station parking lot.
It is what it is...
I'd rock an Echo or a Yaris as a station car.

Mudpuppy 09-15-2010 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 408777)
People interested in practical, economical transportation are gay?

Better sell the motorcycle.

so you compare a race bike to a yaris? good comparison there flap jack.. not..

good luck in selling the car.. use the money to buy a clue..

and for all you haters out there i did all that without spewing obscenities so fuck all y'all..

101lifts2 09-15-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 408718)
I'm just saying that a synthetic oil isn't going to make a difference unless you're planning on keeping it for 200,000 miles or more.

Oil seems to be a big peer pressure thing. :idk: Same goes for 3,000 mile oil changes. They are a waste of money for the vast majority of people. It depends on your driving conditions, distance, weather, etc. If all you do is highway long trips, you're fine with 7,500 mile changes. Short trips on the other hand.......

But whatever makes people feel good.

The funny thing is that you can get 5qts of Mobil 1 at Wallyworld for 21 bucks, but if you buy 5 individual quarts of dino oil it is 3.49 each.

101lifts2 09-15-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 408738)
haha, really? syn reduces friction better, you get better power and fuel economy with good oil than you do with crap. I felt the difference immediately when I moved to good oil in my last bike and in my truck. Try it sometime, not everyone is as ignorant as you think.

I think what you felt is the "I spent an additional 20 bucks on oil, so in order to justfiy my purchase I have to force myself to feel better".:boobs:

Sean 09-15-2010 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409173)
I think what you felt is the "I spent an additional 20 bucks on oil, so in order to justfiy my purchase I have to force myself to feel better".:boobs:

Okay, you all got me. Syn does not have more friction reducing properties than dino, despite all the studies and dyno runs that say it does.

101lifts2 09-15-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 408757)
Or how about, I couldn't see out of the mirrors of my bike with dino in, but I can do 450 miles on it without a numb butt with MX4T in. Or that I gained 1+mpg in my truck. This isn't rocket surgery. How many HP does my truck have again?

Was the oil weight the same on the bike? And the 1mpg was prolly because of difference in the drive cycles.

101lifts2 09-15-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudpuppy (Post 409130)
so you compare a race bike to a yaris? good comparison there flap jack.. not..

good luck in selling the car.. use the money to buy a clue...

Dude I'm rollin here...

101lifts2 09-15-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 409174)
Okay, you all got me. Syn does not have more friction reducing properties than dino, despite all the studies and dyno runs that say it does.

The more slippy you speak of is because of an additive, not the actual base stock oil. That additive can easily be added to dino oil as well. Castrol uses it, but not sure about others.

I use full syn myself so I can go longer between changes.

Homeslice 09-15-2010 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409172)
The funny thing is that you can get 5qts of Mobil 1 at Wallyworld for 21 bucks, but if you buy 5 individual quarts of dino oil it is 3.49 each.

Fuck individual quarts. How much for a 5-qt of dino oil? Bet you can get a 5 qt of Supertech for only $8

101lifts2 09-15-2010 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 409205)
Fuck individual quarts. How much for a 5-qt of dino oil? Bet you can get a 5 qt of Supertech for only $8


Nah...it's like 13 bucks I think. I heard Supertech filters are decent, but I don't know if I would trust the oil.

Gas Man 09-16-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudpuppy (Post 409130)
so you compare a race bike to a yaris? good comparison there flap jack.. not..

good luck in selling the car.. use the money to buy a clue..

and for all you haters out there i did all that without spewing obscenities so fuck all y'all..

Mud... I think they have you on ignore. LOL

The wife just bought a 2011 Fiesta... and it will see your MPG and raise you on MUCH better looking!

101lifts2 09-16-2010 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 409397)
Mud... I think they have you on ignore. LOL

The wife just bought a 2011 Fiesta... and it will see your MPG and raise you on MUCH better looking!

Gas what is she getting mpg wise?

Man we are tearing up Triples thread....

Mudpuppy 09-16-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man (Post 409397)
Mud... I think they have you on ignore. LOL

The wife just bought a 2011 Fiesta... and it will see your MPG and raise you on MUCH better looking!

good

dubbs 09-16-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 409469)
I like the new Fiestas. Ugly wheels, though.

Looks-wise I put it about equal with the Yaris. Both are better looking than the Fit, Aveo, and Korean offerings.

I see your new'er cars and raise you a 92 civic.. How does a car thats 18 years old average 40+ mpg.. That's better than any non hybrid car on the road today.. Fucking 3000lb compact cars these days..

101lifts2 09-16-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 409548)
I see your new'er cars and raise you a 92 civic.. How does a car thats 18 years old average 40+ mpg.. That's better than any non hybrid car on the road today.. Fucking 3000lb compact cars these days..

They were lighter.
The NOx emission regulation were not as stringent as today, so you could run leaner and you didn't have to warm up the cat quickly either, which reduces fuel consumption.
They were much slower.

goof2 09-16-2010 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 409548)
I see your new'er cars and raise you a 92 civic.. How does a car thats 18 years old average 40+ mpg.. That's better than any non hybrid car on the road today.. Fucking 3000lb compact cars these days..

People don't want to buy a car, even an "economy" car, unless it has power windows, door locks, A/C, sat/nav, 16 airbags, enough sound deadening to fill a Lexus, and enough steel to withstand getting run over by Bigfoot. Most consumers who want an "economy" car aren't willing to give anything up to achieve actual economy so manufacturers just build smaller cars that only give the appearance of economy. Personally I'd rather have one of Sir Alec Issigonis' original Minis weighing 1,500lbs running a B18C5 Integra Type-R engine and still get great mileage, but I guess I'm uncommon and nobody really builds the cars I would want.

dubbs 09-16-2010 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409571)
They were lighter.
The NOx emission regulation were not as stringent as today, so you could run leaner and you didn't have to warm up the cat quickly either, which reduces fuel consumption.
They were much slower.

Yeah. They are a bit lighter. One example is my 92 civic vs my dads 2005 civic hybrid. My dads car is slower and only gets about 38 mpg. Weight diff is about 500lbs.

Homeslice 09-16-2010 10:55 PM

Yeah..........But which Civic would you take on a long trip? Old Civics have horrible road & tire noise.

goof2 09-16-2010 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 409576)
Yeah..........But which Civic would you take on a long trip? Old Civics have horrible road & tire noise.

I took a 93 Civic Ex manual sedan on a number of long road trips. I thought it was very comfortable.

Homeslice 09-16-2010 11:31 PM

Guess it depends what you're used to. My parents have one of the 90's base model Civics, don't know which year, and it's much noisier than today's cars, or even my 94 Probe.

101lifts2 09-17-2010 12:19 AM

You still have that Probe? Damn...talkin about not helping the economy. lol

Homeslice 09-17-2010 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409595)
You still have that Probe? Damn...talkin about not helping the economy. lol

Between my bike and public transportation, I only need to drive like 5K miles a year, so spending $30K on a new car would be a waste.

101lifts2 09-17-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 409597)
Between my bike and public transportation, I only need to drive like 5K miles a year, so spending $30K on a new car would be a waste.

Or get a 10k lease for 200 bucks a month. :boobs:

pauldun170 09-17-2010 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 409585)
Guess it depends what you're used to. My parents have one of the 90's base model Civics, don't know which year, and it's much noisier than today's cars, or even my 94 Probe.

I miss my Probe. It was a good car.
Guy that eventually bought it apparently fixed the stuff I was to lazy to sort out so its probably still chugging along.

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409599)
Or get a 10k lease for 200 bucks a month. :boobs:

Why?

101lifts2 09-17-2010 01:37 AM

^^^Stir up the economy. Pay attention Dun.

pauldun170 09-17-2010 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409603)
^^^Stir up the economy. Pay attention Dun.

Did you see the timestamp on my post?
You should know by now that any post I make between 8PM and 5AM will likely be sketchy

dubbs 09-17-2010 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice (Post 409585)
Guess it depends what you're used to. My parents have one of the 90's base model Civics, don't know which year, and it's much noisier than today's cars, or even my 94 Probe.

It's noisy but nothing that turning the radio on won't fix. Some of the weather stripping is bad adding to the wind noise, but I also drive a convertible and an 89 f-150 so it's the quietest of the bunch for me.

My dad's hybrid has trouble accelerating with 2 ppl in the car. Scary how slow that thing is..

Oh, btw.. good luck with the sale! :boobs:

pauldun170 09-17-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 409633)
It's noisy but nothing that turning the radio on won't fix.

Is that why every Civic I see on the road has it's (aftermarket) radio blasting?
:lol:

dubbs 09-17-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 409635)
Is that why every Civic I see on the road has it's (aftermarket) radio blasting?
:lol:

Eh, I guess you can call mine aftermarket.. I've got a free pioneer deck (7 yrs old) driver side front speaker lead is dead. And I bought 2 pair of 2way pioneer speakers off ebay for 15$ each/pair. Gets the job done.. lol

The radio that came with the car played static.. really loud.. and the speakers were all completed ripped. I had to run speaker wire throughout the car, but didnt hide any of it.. it's a real beater.. Never washed in 4 yrs too.. lol

pauldun170 09-17-2010 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 409649)
Eh, I guess you can call mine aftermarket.. I've got a free pioneer deck (7 yrs old) driver side front speaker lead is dead. And I bought 2 pair of 2way pioneer speakers off ebay for 15$ each/pair. Gets the job done.. lol

The radio that came with the car played static.. really loud.. and the speakers were all completed ripped. I had to run speaker wire throughout the car, but didnt hide any of it.. it's a real beater.. Never washed in 4 yrs too.. lol

I'm not knocking the car.
Despite all the "tuner wannabe's" out there destroying them, older civics have always been great little cars.

dubbs 09-17-2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 409679)
I'm not knocking the car.
Despite all the "tuner wannabe's" out there destroying them, older civics have always been great little cars.

Didn't think you were.. I hate all those piece of shit civics, accords, integras.. They all have the wing, the altezza lights, and the chrome 14" hub caps.. :wtfru:

I use mine for economy and keeping the miles off my nicer vehicles. I drive 2 hours round trip every day for work..

pauldun170 09-17-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 409681)
Didn't think you were.. I hate all those piece of shit civics, accords, integras.. They all have the wing, the altezza lights, and the chrome 14" hub caps.. :wtfru:

I use mine for economy and keeping the miles off my nicer vehicles. I drive 2 hours round trip every day for work..

You can't even buy one anymore new or used without threat of theft or abuse by previous owner.

Gas Man 09-18-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 409412)
Gas what is she getting mpg wise?

Man we are tearing up Triples thread....

I'm at 30mpg cause I drove it the last 2 days... and that's doin 90+mph down the highway... wed night I was trailin my buddy in his new 300 and we were doin 100mph. Fiesta just goes.

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Originally Posted by Triple (Post 409469)
I like the new Fiestas. Ugly wheels, though.

Looks-wise I put it about equal with the Yaris. Both are better looking than the Fit, Aveo, and Korean offerings.

Yeah I don't like the wheels. But it's HUGE better looking than any of those, including the Yaris. I'll get a thread up in a few mins.


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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 409573)
People don't want to buy a car, even an "economy" car, unless it has power windows, door locks, A/C, sat/nav, 16 airbags, enough sound deadening to fill a Lexus, and enough steel to withstand getting run over by Bigfoot. Most consumers who want an "economy" car aren't willing to give anything up to achieve actual economy so manufacturers just build smaller cars that only give the appearance of economy. Personally I'd rather have one of Sir Alec Issigonis' original Minis weighing 1,500lbs running a B18C5 Integra Type-R engine and still get great mileage, but I guess I'm uncommon and nobody really builds the cars I would want.

That's the cool part about the Fiesta. It has all those super nice options in a sub $20k car. It's also the only car in its class with many of those options and getting a 5 star safety rating. It even has knee airbags... F knee airbags. It's a super cool little car.


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