Subaru WRX STi vs Mitsu Lancer Evo X
 

I test drove the lancer yesterday and beat the piss out of a car w/ 30 miles on it honestly just to shut the dealer up.. Apparently he thinks how fast a car can go in a straight line sells the car for most people. I was looking for turns, i was in an area I didn't know and he wasn't helping to find any. But my thoughts after about 30 mins in the car.

It's my first time driving an AWD sports car.. Kinda cool, but you still get that Torque steer i remember from FWD cars. Don't really like that feeling. It's pretty fast, got loads of Torque, but the top end kinda lacks for me. (I like peaky top end power like my s2k) I have no idea how the car handles but there wasn't much body roll in the shitty turns i took. The ride is horrible.. seats are made to be in a full on race car and the clutch and shifting was strange. The clutch felt like nothing, no feel, light as a feather.. The shifting was very stiff, might be just because it's new.. idk but I did feel 3rd to be very notchy even during mild 4k+ shifts. The lack of a 6spd is also a let down (and i won't go near that auto-manual no clutch paddle shifting bull shit)

Car looks awesome in person. The one model was black, just looked mean..


As far as the Subie I have yet to drive it as they were really reluctant to let me take it out. I simply told the guy i can't buy a car i can't test drive and gave him my number and left. He called me today and said I can take it out but he needs my credit card, it can't be at night, and the salesman has to go with me. I work during the day so I guess I'll test it out after Xmas. I sat in it and the interior much nicer.. The seats seem like they would hold you fine and are yet still very comfortable. The clutch felt better and this model also had the short shifter which seemed to have more precise shifts than My S2K.. came out to $40k.


Just seeing if you guys had any thoughts about these models.. I know the subie motors are less than perfect and I'm not sure how much more power they can take before needing some major engine work.

$40K?

lolololololol......

Anyways, if you do a lot of commuting, get the Subie............The Lancer's ride & road noise & cheap interior would suck for that.

I rented a base Lancer, and on the highway it felt like being inside a snare drum because of all the road/tire noise.

Yeah I thought that 40k price tag was nuts. Had every dealer option already installed. Base price is 34k.

Keep in mind, the Lancer Evo requires valve adjustments. The "scheduled" interval for inspections is now 60k miles but they say you need to deal with it if the valves get loud no matter the mileage. I think earlier Evos were down around 25k or 30k for valve adjustments if you were considering going used.

Evo had tq steer because the engine is still a transverse mount. It basically IS a ff layout

Personally I wouldn't spend money on either, maybe a genesis coupe turbo...maybe

Yeah.. It snows a good amount around here.. I'd love to be able to take the car out in the snow with some good winter tires and tear shit up.

As I stare at my car in the garage around this time of the year.. it makes me want something more capable.

My vote is, of course, for the Subie. I've just never been as in love with a car as I am with my WRX. I've yet to drive it in snow, but I WANT to. But in rain (and of course, just day to day driving), it's so very capable, and just a joy to drive.

That said, that "new car show with the fat hipster" tested the Evo X in ungodly snow, and it was seriously impressive. Haven't heard about 2011 STi in those conditions, but if you're looking at new models, it might be worth looking up the vid of that test drive.

The evo X and the STi will both rip through the snow. I'm a mitsu fan so I side with the EVO but they are both racey amazing cars and can outrun cars much more expensive.

I can't believe they want all that crap to just test drive it. WTF

Good luck though. I think Top Gear U did a review/comparison of those 2 exact cars not that long ago... you should check it out.

They were like that here as well.

I ended up testing a used STI with all season radials :td: That thing slid all over the road.

I wasn't impressed with the kidney jar ride of the STI.

Fast car..no doubt..but for $32k I decided to get something a little more practical AND a sports car

I was also considering just the WRX seeing as it's not that much less of a car for like 8500 less.

Yes, I saw that review and it kind of made me want to test drive both, before seeing it, I was just tossing the idea around.. the way it cut through the snow and how much fun it looked, made me go out and drive it yesterday.

What kind of car(s) did you end up getting?

Buy the EVOX and take it to this guy.
http://www.buschurracing.com/

Here is the stages he does.

https://secure.buschurracing.com/cat...?cPath=193_240

Or go big and take it to AMS performance

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/a...x_package.html

The EVO 900x
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/i...ge_500x375.jpg

Explorer (practical 4x4)
Z4 (sport car)

I bought both (used) for less than what the used STI was listed for

Thing is, I drove an SL convertible up to the dealership, and thought for SURE I'd be taken more seriously than some kid wanting a free ride...and I DID have geniune interest in buying one. But even after talking to them and the salesmans understanding that I was in fact ready to purchase.....they still wanted credit card info, bloodwork, and first born to test drive a NEW STI

I settled for the used one, and told the salesman afterwards that had it been the new one and I coul have tested out a car with proper tires they may have had a sale.

And later if you want "moar" out of it, $2K will take you to stage 2 (and Subie dealers are mod friendly - stage 2 won't hurt our warranty if/when we do it).

We have an '07 WRX Wagon - daily driver, grocery getter, roadtrip fun, can strap shit to the roof, can put a hitch on it, can auto-x it.

In all fairness, I'm sure the same can be said for the EvoX as well (I have a couple of friends who have them, both here in FL, as well as on more "fun" roads in CA, and they rave about it as well). May come down to $$ and whatever appeals to you more physically.

THat's hot. I have to admit.

I found it funny how easy it was to test drive an EVO vs an STi. I thought they would both be pretty hard, as soon as I said I had an S2000 to trade I figured they wouldn't care.

Too bad the EVO has that ugly grill. Looks like a catfish mouth.

I didn't like it at first, but I'm seeing more and more cars going with that look (Vdubs, 4-Runners...)

I'm also a fan of the Subaru (two in the drive now). They go through snow pretty good. I'd have to say Erik's Outback goes slightly better because of the tires and the ground clearance, but my Legacy does good. Gets in the driveway and that is all I ever wanted. I have so much fun driving it.

It's an STi - they don't want just anyone test driving. I can't blame them for being selective. Hell, if it were me and I was looking to buy one I wouldn't want just anyone and everyone test driving it.

I considered the WRX when I was looking but it was just a little too "raw" for what I wanted (hit the turbo quick and hard). The Legacy is much more refined. Plus I couldn't see over the hood scoop of the WRX, that would require me to actually sit upright in my seat. :lol:

I think in the end no matter which car you choose, you will be happy. Just if you get the subie and mod it, do the tranny upgrade or you will be paying dearly for it.

Ive driven both cars, and teh subaru is the way to go. The Evo is faster, turns better, and has more power, but the subaru is much more refined and will leave you much happier when you need to drive it.

The subarus tend to push through corners more than the mitsu, but its a little more controlable with the throttle than the lancer. Also the WRX while having a very firm suspension is not uncomfortable like the EVO, the seats are also much more comfortable, and the rest of the car is just much more refined.

You will not be dissapointed with either car if you are looking for performance.

Ohhh yes, the first sub-40 degree morning I drove it, and stomped on it - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA... Oh my, gotta love a turbo on a cool morning.

it all depends on the years your looking at, each have highlights and low lights
i would check out NASIOC, best vehicle specific forum on the web
alot of small things have very simple fixes from the aftermarket