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Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 09:21 AM
Forget about your kid racing in Florida
 
Just caught this on another forum. Looks like the ranks of the USGPRU might be a bit thinned next season. What a bunch of idiots Florida has sitting in their Supreme Court.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=35263


“We hold that a pre-injury release executed by a parent on behalf of a minor child is unenforceable against the minor or the minor’s estate in a tort action arising from injuries resulting from participation in a commercial activity,” the majority opinion states. “It cannot be presumed that a parent who has decided to voluntarily risk a minor child’s physical well-being is acting in the child’s best interest.

Corey 12-30-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 135742)
What a bunch of idiots Florida has.
Fixed that for ya.

Edited to add: I don't see how that ruling couldn't also apply to any contact sport. Is it just a matter of time before some dicklicking parent decides to use this decision to also go after football programs?

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135747)
Fixed that for ya.

Edited to add: I don't see how that ruling couldn't also apply to any contact sport. Is it just a matter of time before some dicklicking parent decides to use this decision to also go after football programs?
If it's a for-profit organization, then it would appear that the ruling already applies. High school football programmes might well be exempt, but this is going to make a lot of people rethink their participation.

Corey 12-30-2008 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 135768)
If it's a for-profit organization, then it would appear that the ruling already applies. High school football programmes might well be exempt, but this is going to make a lot of people rethink their participation.
Sure, high school programs, but what about pee-wee football and all the other shit, like summer camps, youth leagues, and other stuff along those lines that happen outside of school? Those are for profit and require a legal waiver as well.

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135770)
Sure, high school programs, but what about pee-wee football and all the other shit, like summer camps, youth leagues, and other stuff along those lines that happen outside of school? Those are for profit and require a legal waiver as well.
That's my point. They're essentially already toast.

Corey 12-30-2008 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 135774)
That's my point. They're essentially already toast.
I Fucking hate this state. I wish it would break off and sink into the ocean and take everyone with it. There's so many shots taken at shitville and Arkansas for being backwater embarrassments, but Florida has them all beat.

azoomm 12-30-2008 10:05 AM
Interesting development.

Our standard child waiver is two sided - one side is in [more] plain english and is to be signed by the minor. The other side is more complex and is to be signed by a Parent OR Legal Guardian. It is interesting to me, that a parent wouldn't be able to establish what they believe to be the best interest of the child - could it be that in this case it was a weekend-warrior father, and the child's mother [post divorce] is suing? I mean - it said:
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The child’s father had signed a “release and waiver of liability, assumption of risk, and indemnity agreement,” according to the ruling. However a representative of the child’s estate stepped forward and filed a lawsuit for wrongful death against the park’s operators.
So, the father isn't involved with the child's estate? Or, is the father just out money-grubbing after he signed for his child and found a loop-hole?

Certainly a case for me to watch....

Hondahugger 12-30-2008 10:08 AM
Looks like my son won't even be playing high school football next year with the way this is going to trigger other events!

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 135782)
Interesting development.

Our standard child waiver is two sided - one side is in [more] plain english and is to be signed by the minor. The other side is more complex and is to be signed by a Parent OR Legal Guardian. It is interesting to me, that a parent wouldn't be able to establish what they believe to be the best interest of the child - could it be that in this case it was a weekend-warrior father, and the child's mother [post divorce] is suing? I mean - it said:

So, the father isn't involved with the child's estate? Or, is the father just out money-grubbing after he signed for his child and found a loop-hole?

Certainly a case for me to watch....
I've been wondering if the "representative of the child's estate" was court appointed, or hired by one of the parents. I haven't seen any information in that regard.

askmrjesus 12-30-2008 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135770)
Sure, high school programs, but what about pee-wee football and all the other shit, like summer camps, youth leagues, and other stuff along those lines that happen outside of school? Those are for profit and require a legal waiver as well.
It's not just limited to sports either. There are also waivers required or SCUBA diving, guided snorkel trips, gear rental for the aforementioned, boat rentals, para-sailing, deep sea fishing...the list goes on and on. Florida is shooting itself in it's recreational tourism based foot.

Shit like this is one of the reasons I quit being a diving instructor when I moved back to the states.

JC

cuttle 12-30-2008 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 135782)
So, the father isn't involved with the child's estate? Or, is the father just out money-grubbing after he signed for his child and found a loop-hole?

Certainly a case for me to watch....
The way I read it, it doesn't even matter if both parents would sign a release...


I think I start a cotton ball trowing league :panic: (no running - it's to dangerous)

Corey 12-30-2008 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cuttle (Post 135796)
The way I read it, it doesn't even matter if both parents would sign a release...


I think I start a cotton ball trowing league :panic: (no running - it's to dangerous)
Sorry, there's a potential choking hazard, and they frown upon things being thrown at other people. It potentially damages their already fragile self esteem. And there are some kids who are allergic to cotton, so that's a big fat no no.

cuttle 12-30-2008 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135807)
Sorry, there's a potential choking hazard, and they frown upon things being thrown at other people. It potentially damages their already fragile self esteem. And there are some kids who are allergic to cotton, so that's a big fat no no.
Good point! I guess the only thing left are computer games were they can blow shit up, steal cars and kill somebody - it just hope they don't get carpal tunnel syndrom.

azoomm 12-30-2008 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135807)
Sorry, there's a potential choking hazard, and they frown upon things being thrown at other people. It potentially damages their already fragile self esteem. And there are some kids who are allergic to cotton, so that's a big fat no no.
Sounds like AustinISD - they are the school district that banned DodgeBall a few years ago. It was banned because children were not only getting hurt physically - the team placement was hurting der widdle feelwings. FWIW, they are trying to get it re-instated.

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 10:34 AM
Just in the motorcycle end of things, USGPRU starts out their season at Jennings these days, I believe. They've raced with CCS at Daytona in the past. Consider how many kids got their start in USGPRU and CCS.

Chris Peris wouldn't have been able to race at Daytona, back when he was running in the Can-Am 125GP and USGPRU. PJ Jacobsen, Jake Lewis, and Royce McLean won't be able to run at Jennings. Our youngsters won't be able to take part in the Parts Canada Superbike tire test at Jennings this April.

What bloody stupidity.

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Originally Posted by cuttle (Post 135812)
Good point! I guess the only thing left are computer games were they can blow shit up, steal cars and kill somebody - it just hope they don't get carpal tunnel syndrom.
Nope. Carpal tunnel means they'll sue, sue, sue.

Corey 12-30-2008 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 135813)
Sounds like AustinISD - they are the school district that banned DodgeBall a few years ago. It was banned because children were not only getting hurt physically - the team placement was hurting der widdle feelwings. FWIW, they are trying to get it re-instated.
I'm surprised they still have a gym program that's more than kids flapping a parachute or playing badminton with a foam birdie, nee shuttle cock because i know when i think of a small plastic object barely wafting through the air the only thing I can think of is hardcore ass poundings and double penetration orgies, and big throbbing cocks falling from the heavens and kissing children on the cheeks. Gotta cut out competitive sports because we don't want to make any kid think that they are a loser if their team... loses. But if you absolutely have to play a team sport, it will be ok because we won't keep score so everyone wins.

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135818)
I'm surprised they still have a gym program that's more than kids flapping a parachute or playing badminton with a foam birdie, nee shuttle cock because i know when i think of a small plastic object barely wafting through the air the only thing I can think of is hardcore ass poundings and double penetration orgies, and big throbbing cocks falling from the heavens and kissing children on the cheeks. Gotta cut out competitive sports because we don't want to make any kid think that they are a loser if their team... loses. But if you absolutely have to play a team sport, it will be ok because we won't keep score so everyone wins.
Well I did manage to spike a badminton bird into the mouth of one of the hottest girls in high school twice during the same game. I hope that she doesn't come after me for sexual abuse.

Corey 12-30-2008 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex (Post 135824)
Well I did manage to spike a badminton bird into the mouth of one of the hottest girls in high school twice during the same game. I hope that she doesn't come after me for sexual abuse.
Fucking rapist.

Papa_Complex 12-30-2008 10:49 AM
I'm so ashamed :(

deals gap dragon slayer 01-09-2009 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Corey (Post 135780)
There's so many shots taken at shitville and Arkansas for being backwater embarrassments, but Florida has them all beat.
Why do you think Florida has its own category on Fark.com

Corey 01-09-2009 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by deals gap dragon slayer (Post 142984)
Why do you think Florida has its own category on Fark.com
Because they produce the best headlines for all the Farkers and Farkettes.


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