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dReWpY 01-29-2009 09:53 PM

Knee down time
 
I know most of you hate threads like this so avoid it if you want, i know its a beat down topic...


who can get it down and who are still trying?

I know the first time i touched down it was a bit of a relief, now its just normal on a spirited ride to touch down once or twice.

I know this is more of a track question, but lets be honest, I have done it in the streets and will prolly do it again.

makes me really love my leathers and without them i feel naked and ride at like 30% my normal pace.

so who gets it down and who still is left wanting like a virgin at prom....

HRCNICK11 01-29-2009 10:01 PM

Yes on the track lots a few times on the street when I was young and dumb. A bit a the dragon but thats a given.

dReWpY 01-29-2009 10:03 PM

i feel spoiled, living in TN offers more chances for good rides then any other state i can think of, with CO being a close second

pickle.of.doom 01-29-2009 10:05 PM

Fuck you tater's WOAXW :D

Cutty72 01-29-2009 10:06 PM

My option is not up there.
I got my knee down on my first (and only) track day once.
that is it... ND is too flat to get it.

JARVIS518 01-29-2009 10:07 PM

dont have many turns here in florida and havent been to the track yet
so that would be a big negative ghost rider for now

OneSickPsycho 01-29-2009 10:08 PM

No knee down for me yet... Given my current circumstance... it certainly won't be anytime soon...

dReWpY 01-29-2009 10:09 PM

if you come to TN this year i almost guarentee you get that shit down

Trip 01-29-2009 10:12 PM

What's this knee down thing you are talking about, I don't get what you are talking about?

JARVIS518 01-29-2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 156407)
if you come to TN this year i almost guarentee you get that shit down

u talking to me or OSP?

tached1000rr 01-29-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 156400)
i feel spoiled, living in TN offers more chances for good rides then any other state i can think of, with CO being a close second

Western, NC has some great roads as well

FT BSTRD 01-29-2009 10:16 PM

In TN, you can get a knee down while ripping around a right hander dodging a giant water buffalo gathering her mail while sporting a fetching purple moo moo.


Mmmmmmm. Tennessee.

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/...5_1280_061.JPG

Dave 01-29-2009 10:17 PM

i havent on at least two points, #1 the roads around here dont support it. #2 i usually ride in jeans and therefore tend to pull my knee in slightly when leaning further

dReWpY 01-29-2009 10:18 PM

either one if there are any takers... but was refering to osp

yeah that was a scary ride, i dont know what scared me more, the two christmas hams she was hidding in her moomoo or the tiny dog that was behind her that looked like it would be slippery at 50mph...


Trip,

the knee down thing is what you were doing when the cop went by.... :leaving:

PhiSig1071 01-29-2009 10:24 PM

Every chance I get. Which isn't very fucking often in FL.

fasternyou929 01-29-2009 10:30 PM

Track yes, but certainly not every turn. I see a lot of people that are so focused on touching down their puck that they'll take stupid lines and lose corner speed.

Street no. I know it's been damn close about 1000x over, but no street scuffs. I also don't stick my leg way out in my turns on the road - I don't like the idea of being way out there when suddenly there's gravel on the road.

OneSickPsycho 01-29-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 156407)
if you come to TN this year i almost guarentee you get that shit down

A lot is going to be dependent on my flexibility after healing...

Mr Lefty 01-29-2009 10:59 PM

nope... I will... not worried about it though... need to focus on leaving red lights first :lol:

Mudpuppy 01-29-2009 11:14 PM

first touched down track day # 3 and now pretty consistently.. my biggest issue last year was my legs were out of shape and it felt like someone was stabbing knives into them when i got off the bike.. i am fixing that issue right now.. no worries come spring.. i am already well into being in 1,000x better shape this year and gaining momentum..

lauralynne 01-29-2009 11:17 PM

with a 26" inseam, if I get my knee down, the bodywork is draggin as well. My riding style isn't such that I put my knee out, I tuck it in.

I'm good with that.

The Awesome 01-30-2009 01:15 AM

I've been close. Hopefully soon.

derf 01-30-2009 01:39 AM

Ive hit a few times, but I cant do it every time, or with any type of consitency

101lifts2 01-30-2009 02:14 AM

Getting a knee down is all body position and if you can turn your knee out moreso than lean angle.

Since I lift alot I can barely turn my leg out to a 30 degree angle. I can ride with one hand following people who drag knee in every corner, but I rarely do it.

Quick281 01-30-2009 04:56 AM

No me, but thats ok. I still have lots of learning to do with curves but every trip i take I gain a bit of confidence.

Really don't want to push it on the streets though. : (

Rider 01-30-2009 09:01 AM

Can I? Yes. Do I? No. When we were at Indy, if I had pucks on I would have set a knee down on that highway interchange loop.

Dave 01-30-2009 09:19 AM

forgot one, #3 the 954's tank isin't shaped very well for holding my inner thigh. one of the reasons i had been considering switching bikes this year. might have to look into stompgrips, dunno

azoomm 01-30-2009 09:40 AM

Why is this question being asked in Street? :panic:

marko138 01-30-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 156607)
Why is this question being asked in Street? :panic:

Because Drewpy is a hooligan.

R6Chick 01-30-2009 10:02 AM

I have a few times on the track. I'm working on getting better!

MikeSP1 01-30-2009 11:56 AM

Taters whore!

I really need to get my bike put back together, but that won't be until next fall/winter. Oh, and I need to get some parts. But most importantly I need to get some leathers because studies show that jeans don't last very long after prolonged exposure to asphalt at high-ish speeds:whistle:

OneSickPsycho 01-30-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Awesome (Post 156464)
I've been close. Hopefully soon.

:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 156475)
Getting a knee down is all body position and if you can turn your knee out moreso than lean angle.

Since I lift alot I can barely turn my leg out to a 30 degree angle. I can ride with one hand following people who drag knee in every corner, but I rarely do it.

Maybe you should look at adding some flexibility trainging into your workouts...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 156590)
forgot one, #3 the 954's tank isin't shaped very well for holding my inner thigh. one of the reasons i had been considering switching bikes this year. might have to look into stompgrips, dunno

My experience is the same with the 954... It's not a very comfortable bike to get in position on...

Yamerhaw 01-30-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewpy (Post 156400)
i feel spoiled, living in TN offers more chances for good rides then any other state i can think of, with CO being a close second

NC and VA too, and i live right in the corner in the Northwest NC mountains, i'm completed surrounded by twisties, no freeways or interstates anywhere near here

DIMford 01-30-2009 02:08 PM

Got it down on my last track day beginning of this month. I won't even try on the street unless it was a life or death situation.

ceo012384 01-30-2009 02:46 PM

For all you pussies who can't do it, the best way is just to crash. Done deal.

deals gap dragon slayer 01-30-2009 02:53 PM

I do at the track all the time... on the street... there are only a few roads around here that warrant coming even close. and I've been chewed out a few times for doing it... not that i care... i wasn't speeding excessively. lol

Sanchez 01-30-2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 156406)
No knee down for me yet... Given my current circumstance... it certainly won't be anytime soon...

I'd say you got your knee down pretty good! :lol: Here's how we do it in GA:

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/..._03_08_018.JPG

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/..._03_08_002.JPG

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/..._03_08_006.JPG

http://www.incorrect.org/coppermine/..._03_08_013.JPG

Sanchez 01-30-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD (Post 156413)

Coulda swore I took that in GA! :D

Personally I drag my knee on the track but not on the street. Not that I see anything wrong with it. I just don't ride that hard on the street. I had one serious accident, and that was plenty.

ericr 01-30-2009 05:26 PM

I've tried and tried, but damn I can't get my knee down on my VTX :idk:

I got a friends '96 ZX-7R running for him a couple summers ago and out on a test ride I noticed my knee was uncomfortably close to the asphalt since I was just in jeans doing a lap around the "block" (I live in the country, 4 mile "block"). I'll wait till I get an FZ1 before I bother to try.

dReWpY 01-30-2009 06:38 PM

i typically dont drop knee unless its an unusually spirited ride or im out east, other then that i really dont go fast enough to lean over that far...

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Awesome (Post 156464)
I've been close. Hopefully soon.

let us know how that works out for you...:whistle:

racedoll 01-30-2009 08:51 PM

There wasn't an option for me. I've gotten it down just once and it was on the track.

I don't come close on the street and don't care to as I'm in jeans... and there are too many other variables.

The track, if I do it again, OK if I don't. OK. I think part of the reason I did this one time is because my leathers are kind of big in the legs and they just hung down far enough. LOL.

I ride more like my husband - neither one of us move very much on the bike though I probably should since I'm nearly half his size.

dReWpY 01-30-2009 10:45 PM

i fucked up the poll and ment to have a option about doing it on accident but i had to include tators woaxw

FT BSTRD 01-30-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 156862)
Coulda swore I took that in GA! :D

Personally I drag my knee on the track but not on the street. Not that I see anything wrong with it. I just don't ride that hard on the street. I had one serious accident, and that was plenty.


Why you gotta harsh my mellow?

Yeah, but there are TN roads that look just like that one. :D


I just didn't have a TN picture to go with the caption.


Looks like I'm going to miss MBVI. I'm selling the bike and unless economic shit picks up soon, I'll be bikeless for a while.

dReWpY 01-30-2009 11:19 PM

dont do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep the uly

No Worries 01-31-2009 12:42 AM

The only time I put a knee down is to check my tire pressure. My knees hug the tank all the time. I only move my upper body on curves. For me, it's much more efficient. Especially with the millions of curves in Colorado. Ha, two digs in one post.

Antwanny 01-31-2009 01:25 AM

so does it count if your knee goes down with the bike, if so my knee has been down a few times.
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the chi 01-31-2009 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rider (Post 156573)
Can I? Yes. Do I? No. When we were at Indy, if I had pucks on I would have set a knee down on that highway interchange loop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanchez (Post 156862)
Personally I drag my knee on the track but not on the street. Not that I see anything wrong with it. I just don't ride that hard on the street. I had one serious accident, and that was plenty.

That would be me. I dont feel a need to do it on the street, altho theres a very few roads here I could do it on, I just think its safe or wise.

On the track, well, once I finally did it, my sole goal was to do it as much as often till I destroyed my pucks. After doing this, and rubbing some leather off as well, nto to mention my leg saving my ass from sliding out, Im out of the " I CAN DRAG KNEE" stage and if it happens, it happens, I wont be trying to do it, not that I really did before tho. :idk:

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Worries (Post 157064)
The only time I put a knee down is to check my tire pressure. My knees hug the tank all the time. I only move my upper body on curves. For me, it's much more efficient. Especially with the millions of curves in Colorado. Ha, two digs in one post.


:lol: Butthead, but good ones!

Ducati Diva 01-31-2009 09:48 AM

Right now my only goal is to keep my knees up :lol:

MikeSP1 01-31-2009 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericr (Post 156897)
I've tried and tried, but damn I can't get my knee down on my VTX :idk:

I got a friends '96 ZX-7R running for him a couple summers ago and out on a test ride I noticed my knee was uncomfortably close to the asphalt since I was just in jeans doing a lap around the "block" (I live in the country, 4 mile "block"). I'll wait till I get an FZ1 before I bother to try.


But you can lean like a SOB on a VTX. I had a kid on a 636 mention at a gas stop during a weekend ride that he didn't thing cruisers riders could lean out until he saw me ride.

the chi 01-31-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSP1 (Post 157216)
But you can lean like a SOB on a VTX. I had a kid on a 636 mention at a gas stop during a weekend ride that he didn't thing cruisers riders could lean out until he saw me ride.

This dude is friggin INSANE on a cruiser!! Terrifying to watch but killer mad skills!

MikeSP1 01-31-2009 10:26 AM

Which reminds me, X is still in VT. If she doesn't sell by mid-May, then I won't sell her, you wanna watch her Rae? And I'm not that good, I just can't push her too much further without doing a lot of damage.

the chi 01-31-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSP1 (Post 157224)
Which reminds me, X is still in VT. If she doesn't sell by mid-May, then I won't sell her, you wanna watch her Rae? And I'm not that good, I just can't push her too much further without doing a lot of damage.


You betcha, get her down to me and I'll make sure she's taken care of!

MikeSP1 01-31-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chi (Post 157280)
You betcha, get her down to me and I'll make sure she's taken care of!

SWEET! I'm gonna need to take some more pics, a hottie rocking my wide assed cruiser, again:rockout:

Dave 02-01-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSP1 (Post 157216)
But you can lean like a SOB on a VTX. I had a kid on a 636 mention at a gas stop during a weekend ride that he didn't thing cruisers riders could lean out until he saw me ride.

you should see zerioustt on his mean streak. dude can hustle that thing wayy faster than he ought to be able to. he always leads on the md runs and the new folks tend to bitch about following a cruiser. funny thing, they never bitch on the return trip :dthumb:

MikeSP1 02-01-2009 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 157599)
you should see zerioustt on his mean streak. dude can hustle that thing wayy faster than he ought to be able to. he always leads on the md runs and the new folks tend to bitch about following a cruiser. funny thing, they never bitch on the return trip :dthumb:

Yeah, I get those looks at the meeting spot when people that've never ridden with me before. They're all like "it's a big, heavy, wide-assed cruiser ridden by a toothpick of a man, there's no way he can keep up" All those looks disappear when we hit the first fuel stop. She's big, she's heavy, she's loud, she's orange, but she ain't slow

ericr 02-01-2009 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeSP1 (Post 157216)
But you can lean like a SOB on a VTX. I had a kid on a 636 mention at a gas stop during a weekend ride that he didn't thing cruisers riders could lean out until he saw me ride.

You're right about that :lol: I can hang my 225lbs all off that 750lb bike and it barely turns ;) It is fun to suprise folks on it sometimes. But with my forwards and seat I have now it's hard to lean off enough to help.

MikeSP1 02-01-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericr (Post 157679)
You're right about that :lol: I can hang my 225lbs all off that 750lb bike and it barely turns ;) It is fun to suprise folks on it sometimes. But with my forwards and seat I have now it's hard to lean off enough to help.

Oh yeah! I'll get completely off the bike. Right hand on the gas, right foot on the peg, left knee hanging onto the tank for dear life. I get further off of the VTX than I do the RC! Had many people think I was about to case it (Rae was one of them), but it's just a normal turn.

dReWpY 02-01-2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 156607)
Why is this question being asked in Street? :panic:

see below

Quote:

I know most of you hate threads like this so avoid it if you want, i know its a beat down topic...

....

I know this is more of a track question, but lets be honest, I have done it in the streets and will prolly do it again.
:sorry:

Tmall 02-01-2009 12:21 PM

The first time I rode with Apoc was last summer. The first corner we go through, I hear scraping.. Every corner after that the same thing.. He's on a Harley Crossbones and he's grinding hard parts in every corner.

Funny thing is, he used to ride an Rc51 as well..

Homeslice 02-02-2009 01:42 PM

Dragging on the street does not necessarily = dangerous, because you can easily drag at 30-40 mph doing circles in a friggin' parking lot if you wanted to.

I will say however that it's easy for newbs to get carried away, sticking out their knee like a chicken wing, or trying to hang off so far that 100% of their butt is off the seat, neither of which are necessary. If you look at pro racers, the've already leaned the bike over so far that there wouldn't be any room to do that stuff anyway. So just focus on looking into the turn, keeping your upper body low and inside, and keeping your arms unweighted, and eventually you will drag.


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