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pauldun170 02-11-2009 10:18 AM

I iz safer in a big truck
 
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/11/3...in-iihs-tests/

Homeslice 02-11-2009 02:38 PM

Sheep.

RACER X 02-11-2009 03:16 PM

i'd like to see a truck get broadsided by a car height sled vs truck height.

Chris S 02-11-2009 09:34 PM

Ridgeline FTW!!! :rockwoot:

Mr Lefty 02-12-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 163820)
i'd like to see a truck get broadsided by a car height sled vs truck height.

Yeah I was thinking that too... I'm sure they'd be much better... but then again... when they're testing it's probably better to go with a truck... as it'd inflict more damage than a car so when gearing safety... better to over shoot it I guess... :idk:

Phenix_Rider 02-12-2009 06:09 AM

And what happens when they hit a little car with the truck sled?

RACER X 02-12-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 164180)
And what happens when they hit a little car with the truck sled?

i think they hit all the veh. w/ the same sled. and most cars fare better.

fasternyou929 02-12-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 164189)
i think they hit all the veh. w/ the same sled. and most cars fare better.

You mean a car fares better when it's hit with a smaller sled? Whoa. Who'da thought?!

ceo012384 02-12-2009 01:31 PM

Glad I'm getting a tundra.

MILK 02-12-2009 01:38 PM

Hmmm... that Silverado looks good. Might hafta buy the hubby one. :lmao:

RACER X 02-12-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fasternyou929 (Post 164194)
You mean a car fares better when it's hit with a smaller sled? Whoa. Who'da thought?!

UM no, i think they hit the car/truck w/ the same sled (truck sized). cars generally get a passing grade whereas these trucks didn't, but got a "poor" instead, even w/ side airbags.

fasternyou929 02-12-2009 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 164420)
UM no, i think they hit the car/truck w/ the same sled (truck sized). cars generally get a passing grade whereas these trucks didn't, but got a "poor" instead, even w/ side airbags.

Yeah, I completely misread that. I thought it said something to the effect of them using a "car" sized sled for cars and a "truck" sized sled for trucks.

That's what I get for waking up a 3:00am to catch a flight...

101lifts2 02-12-2009 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 164420)
UM no, i think they hit the car/truck w/ the same sled (truck sized). cars generally get a passing grade whereas these trucks didn't, but got a "poor" instead, even w/ side airbags.


The problem isn't that the truck isn't stronger than cars, but rather the trucks do not move at all. Watch a car get hit from the side and it will move a foot, which in turn dissapates some of the energy.

Phenix_Rider 02-13-2009 06:51 AM

What I got was that they hit the truck with a "car" and it passed. More structure in the rocker panel means it's stronger. Then they hit the truck with a "truck" and it didn't do so well.

A "truck" would hit a car higher in the door, where there's less structure. (higher even than the "truck" hitting the truck) It follows that a car would be worse off in a collision between a truck and a car.

OneSickPsycho 02-13-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 163820)
i'd like to see a truck get broadsided by a car height sled vs truck height.

:iagree:

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Originally Posted by Chris S (Post 164056)
Ridgeline FTW!!! :rockwoot:

No... Ridgeline FTMFW. :dthumb:

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 164795)
What I got was that they hit the truck with a "car" and it passed. More structure in the rocker panel means it's stronger. Then they hit the truck with a "truck" and it didn't do so well.

A "truck" would hit a car higher in the door, where there's less structure. (higher even than the "truck" hitting the truck) It follows that a car would be worse off in a collision between a truck and a car.

Exactly. I think this just exposes the weakness in utilizing this sort of testing.

Phenix_Rider 02-13-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 165243)
Exactly. I think this just exposes the weakness in utilizing this sort of testing.

It's definitely not perfect, but you need some kind of testing- otherwise you have nothing but marketing gimmicks. A lot like helmets. BSI, Snell, DOT, ECE... Who's right?

OneSickPsycho 02-13-2009 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 165248)
It's definitely not perfect, but you need some kind of testing- otherwise you have nothing but marketing gimmicks. A lot like helmets. BSI, Snell, DOT, ECE... Who's right?

Not debating right, wrong, needed or not needed... Just saying this points out the weakness in the test.

Homeslice 02-13-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 165248)
It's definitely not perfect, but you need some kind of testing- otherwise you have nothing but marketing gimmicks. A lot like helmets. BSI, Snell, DOT, ECE... Who's right?

BSI/ECE, because their helmets are lighter :dthumb:
Who gives a fuck if they are "less safe" than Snell/DOT

ZUKIMON 02-15-2009 12:19 PM

I want to be a crash test dummy! :D

unknownroad 02-16-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider (Post 164795)
A "truck" would hit a car higher in the door, where there's less structure. (higher even than the "truck" hitting the truck) It follows that a car would be worse off in a collision between a truck and a car.


I think the main issue for the trucks is the center beam dividing the front and back halves of the cab. It's a long piece of metal, and since they're trying to keep it as slim as possible to shorten the overall cab length while providing a large opening, it's fairly narrow.

I remember similar tests a few years back, done on extended-cab trucks with suicide rear doors and NO center column... they were really ugly :zowned:


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