Affliction folds
 

Affliction will now be back sponsoring fighters in the UFC. Could this bring Fedor as well?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15629/coll...-announced.mma

Does this mean their douchebag T-shirt division is going out of business too?

one could only hope

Maybe, however this isn't necessarily what is preventing Fedor from fighting in the UFC, it's more of a conflict of interest between him and how things are run there.


BTW Affliction owns. It just sucks that douchebags are allowed to buy their clothes, but whatever. They aren't me,I fit the shirts properly and have yet to have someone tell me it sucks to my face.

Do you want somebody to tell you that affliction clothing sucks to your face?

No. It means that now fighters will be able to wear their gear at UFC events

Correct. Dana White and his offered contracts are. But now with no Affliction, do you really think Fedor will be looking to participate in Sambo tournaments only? Where else is he gonna fight? IMO, Looks it gives Dana the advantage with contract negotiations in the future.

Well to be honest, he could just retire? He's old enough, and done well enough to be able to.

If he does fight in the UFC I think it'll be strictly for money and his fans. I don't know... I would like to see a Fedor/Lesnar fight.

It's just for as much as people talk shit about it, I have yet to ever have anyone say it to my face aka in person, while I'm wearing a shirt. They wouldn't even know if I had anything else Affliction on since the people who bitch about it are most likely referring to their tshirts.

But whatever, to each their own. I think alot of their stuff is grossly overpriced, but I support alot of their fighters.

If Fedor does goes to the UFC I'm sure s Fedor vs Lesner would happen at some point. Wonder if Vitor Belfort is going to go back to the UFC also. The guy awesome when he first came in the UFC but after a couple of losses to Colture he just wasn't the same, still an awesome fighter.

So until recently, I've been pretty Fedor-ignorant. I just took all that shit on face value that he's an MMA god... Then I watched a dozen or so of his fights... Now I'm pretty sure if Fedor does get a shot against Lesnar, he will get dropped on his head until his bowels release and the fight is called.

I am NOT impressed with Fedor AT ALL.

I hope Fedor pounds Lesner.

I don't care if Fedor loses later...even in a rematch to Lesner at some point but if he pounds Lesner I will lmao !!

Having said this though...I won't be betting on it since I learned a lesson the hard way "thinking" CroCop would come in to the UFC and be impressive. :lol:

Which fights did you watch of his?

The only fight I've seen anyone come close to beating Fedors head in, was the CroCop K1 fight that was a split decision in Fedors favor(probably because he was reigning champ)

I know he's got 1 loss to his name, but I haven't seen the fight, nor do I know who it was against.

Like I said, I watched a bunch of his fights... The two that were supposed tobe the most impressive. According to the googling I did were Randleman and gary goodrich or or some shit... Neither impressed me with Fedors alledged greatness...

Let's see... the last 3 Fedor fights I have seen he has defeated:
Andrei Arlovski - at one time considered by many to be "the next great HW", but in reality may have the chin of Glass Joe
Some gigantic Chinese dude Hong Man Choi- literally like almost 8ft tall with relatively little skill
Pig Sylvia -Nuff said there.

Last loss was in 2000, via cut in round 1 (like 30 seconds into the fight)to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka (but came back later to beat him by TKO)

Not a bad list of names to have wins against:
"Babalu" Sobral
Semmy Schilt
Heath Herring
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (multiple times)
Fujita
Gary Goodridge
Mark Coleman (multiple times)
Kevin Randleman
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt

I think what it is is that Fedor has fought pretty much everyone put in front of him and won. Also for a HW, he has most of his wins by sub, not by KO. I was really looking forward to him fighting Josh Barnett (before Barnett got busted for roids). I think it may have been the only real test he has had in years.
Fuck it, I say have him and Kimbo go at it.

No surprise. Called this shit last year. They built a promotion around Fedor, and when he hasn't been on the card, they've cancelled the events. It's the same mess that Elite XC went through by building their promotion around Kimbo.

Affliction clothing is still in business and will be announcing some collaboration shit with UFC tomorrow in a press conference. The clothing ban has been lifted by UFC so you'll see more of their sponsored fighters wearing their gear in the ring again, and most likely, them sponsoring more fighters.

The problem with Fedor coming to the UFC is less about Fedor and more about his managing team, M-1 Global. They're the ones arranging all the contract shit. Their big thing, aside from wanting too much money, is that they want all events with Fedor to be co-sponsored between them and UFC. Not a chance in hell that the UFC is going to co-anything. Fedor also wants to be able to go fight at other promotions and do his Sambo tournaments, which also goes against the UFC grain. I could see them possibly bending to let him do the Sambo thing, but I don't see them bending on giving M-1 Global any kind of co-producing/co-sponsor/co-billing. That'd be like the NFL co-sponsoring all Dallas Cowboy games with the Arena Football League. Dana White has already said that Fedor's first fight in the UFC would be a title shot against Lesnar, so they're game to get him the fight he wants, but his management team will end up being the one who sinks any Fedor/UFC deal.

On a local rock station, they have a guy from the morning show go around to Atlanta's "hippist" clubs and interview people about the clothes they are wearing and how much they cost while they are standing in line. They then have 2 callers call in and guess how much their outfit costs. They call it "Buy-Curious".

Anyways they'll go on to say "Affliction/Ed Hardy shirt, True Religion jeans, k-swiss, etc, etc." Then they add up the total cost. At the end the radio announcer says to them to "repeat after me, for $500 you too, can dress like a douchebag". People usually just say "Fuck you" or turn the phrase to say they are dressed like a pimp.

Fedor is M1 Global. He is part owner of it, last I heard.

Back in the day, the UFC wanted to co promote (remember when they allowed Chuck to fight in Pride? Hell, Dana White was one of the commentators!).
But now they are the big dog in the yard, so it really isn't necessary...they call the shots, and they know it. They don't need Fedor, as much as Fedor would need them, so to speak.

Ya sadly, I don't buy my clothes because its the "in" or hip thing. Nor do I go to clubs. I buy because I'm slightly muscular and I find their cut/fit fits me better than your standard cotton Haynes T.

Plus as I said before, I support a few of their fighters. How much they see from it, I'm not sure, but I know some of it goes to Randy Couture for creating the company, and I support him too.

That's understandable. One time I almost bought an Ed Hardy T-shirt from Marshalls before I even knew what Ed Hardy was. I thought it was a Motley Crue concert T-shirt at first.

But I'm similar to you in a muscular build and it does suck trying to find clothes. I think Hollister considers a "Man Build" to be a bird chest and 26" waist.

Oh yeah, on that show thing they started asking these people what they do for a living. Half are car washers, oil changers or work at Pep Boys.

This!

I think it's more leading to the pussification of America. They think the "men" are smaller too.

IMO, the real problem with clothes these days is that it's made for fat people. The waist/stomach area of shirts is way too big. If you have a muscular or even just an athletic build, you need special tapered shirts, otherwise there's too much material tucked into your pants and it looks fucking stupid.

I think it's one end of the spectrum to the other.

If you buy clothes geared towards older people from stores where adults shop such as Walmart, Target, Kohls, etc they assume they are fat. But if the clothing is geared towards younger people such as SoCal, Hollister, A&F, Ed Hardy, etc they assume they weigh about 150lbs.

Best fitting shirts/clothes I ever had were $7 clothes from Steve and Berrys. Well the jeans weren't the greatest but for $7 you couldn't complain. Their shirts fit damn good. Too bad they closed down. Guess the Chinese kids making them went on strike or something.

So Fedor ends up signing with Strikeforce. What a complete fucking waste. He'll never face stiff competition, continue with an unbeaten streak that will become more and more meaningless, and probably end up bankrupting Strikeforce. So fucking dumb.

Fedor and M-1 Global wanted their Co-Promotion shit, and they got it. In doing so, they sacrificed any hope of name recognition or competition. You can make the argument that there are decent fighters in Strikeforce, but they're just decent. This doesn't seem to be anything more than going for the easy money. To be considered the best, you need to continually fight the best. Fedor was the best, but he's been fighting washed up has-beens or never-will-bes since Pride went under. StrikeForce has a heavyweight title fight coming up soon. Is it the main card being used to pull in potential fans and to be the face of the event? No. That honor falls to Carano vs Cyborg. And now he's in another small runner up production with little recognition. I'll bet, among the general populace (not MMA followers), Gina Carano has more name recognition and pull than Fedor. Maybe I'm wrong, and the world is clamoring for a Fedor/Sobral rematch, or the power card of Fedor/Overeem, but I doubt it. I think it's much more likely that StrikeForce will bankrupt themselves trying to get Fedor to live up to the hype that Affliction failed to produce. Fedor in the US MMA will continue to be a name that less and less people give a shit about because he'll never fight anyone more than the B-leaguers.

In the heavy's not many are impressive... Carwin looks good but has never been challenged... GSP, Silva, Machida are impressive... I'm veryimpresed with Florian and am really looking forward to this weekend....

The problem with Fedor other than his feeding off of weak competition is that he's not really a heavyweight... He's a light heavyweight. Who doesn't cut weight.

Either Dana White is truly pissed, or a great salesman:

"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

White also addressed fans: "I feel sorry for the real fight fans. I wanted to make the deal, but it takes two and it is very obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best, and doesn't give a sh-t about the fans!"

I would still watch Fedor vs Overeem, or Fedor vs "Grimm" Rogers.

Fedor signed with Strikeforce ? What a joke. Ok now my opinion of him has changed and I hope he gets pounded. :lol:

Tim Sylvia hasn't been an effective fighter in years. He's always had the advantage of towering over his opponents, but in recent times, even before the loss to Fedor, he was on the downside of his career. His last fight was an 8 second embarassment that had his sorry ass being knocked out by Ray Mercer despite coming in over 300 pounds.

Arlovski has been hit or miss in recent fights also, coming in with weak showings against strong opponents. He was below the curve on the way out of UFC.

Fedor's last couple fights have been a joke. It's been a decent outing from Arlovski, the embarassment that is Tim Sylvia, the circus act of Hong Man Choi, a hit or miss Matt Lindland, a useless Mark Hunt, and a fading Mark Coleman. He's had some stellar victories and was a dominant force for a long time, but that's over. Rogers is still young to the sport and may be on his way up, but his fight with Arlovski was his first taste of anything more competitive than the Elite XC failures. Overeem is inconsistent. Josh Barnett is going to be under intense scrutiny after testing positive for steroids. These aren't challenges. These are mid-level guys being used to bolster a small MMA production. Everything that has built Fedor up is years past now. It's like saying that Chuck Liddell or Royce Gracie are the best fighters in the sport today based on their past. Once upon a time, yes. Now? No. Fedor can't continue to be the default "greatest" fighter when he slums in the B-leagues.

[QUOTE=Triple;250557]Anyone who says Fedor fights nobodies and has-beens really needs to take another look at his record. The number of highly ranked fighters he has defeated at the height of each of their careers is what makes Fedor number one. He has had a few oddballs mixed in, but so do most other fighters who have been in the game as long as he has.

Even his last two opponents, who everyone now refers to as UFC rejects, were top-ten heavyweights when they faced him. Arlovski was coming off a five-fight winning streak. Sylvia was 7 and 2 in his nine fights prior to fighting Fedor, and not long before was the UFC's most dominant heavyweight champion ever.

To call the heavyweights outside of the UFC cans is a joke. If anyone really believes that Barnett, Overeem, Silva, Rogers and company couldn't compete with guys like Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos, and Velasquez, they don't really follow the sport.
QUOTE]

Although I believe Fedor is the best HW out there now, I feel like I will never see it proven. Short of Overeem, Josh Barnett, and Brett Rogers, I can't think of another HW fighter I would watch outside of the UFC.

Arlovski - last 2 fights ended in KO in under 2 mins TOTAL (Fedor and Rogers)
Pig Sylvia - last 2 fights ended in KO in under 1 min TOTAL (Fedor and Mercer)
Barnett - I don't know if or when he will be granted a license to fight again
Overeem - I think has potential to be a really good HW for years
Rogers - same as Overeem

Who did I miss?

Werdum, who was a bust in his UFC tenure. I could see them lining up some "rematch" fights. StrikeForce does have Kevin Randleman and Renato Sobral on their payroll, both of whom have fought Fedor previously, though years ago.

With the exception (possibly) of Lashley, nobody on this list is really impressive, IMO.

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I would watch that fight. Buentello is also another of those puncher's chance guys,IMO. I saw the "little Fedor" fight, and Buentello was snapping his head back with jabs. Complete striking clinic.
Sadly, my most vivid memory of Buentello was his 15 (or so) sec KO at the hands of Arlovski.

Bob Sapp, the original Kimbo Slice....:didntdo:

When he started, he had a huge size, strength, and reach advantage over everyone (except possibly Semmy Schilt on reach). Last fight I saw of him, he was like 6'5 and something like 340lbs? Mammoth human being, without a doubt.
In my memory, he just mauled guys with akward punches and wore himself out, until he would get tapped out. Or he would start getting hit, and turtle up until the ref stopped it. Maybe this isn't the case...
Anyway, quite possibly my view of Sapp is skewed. He strikes me as a man who truly doesn't want to fight, but gets big bucks to step into the ring.

I would still watch Fedor take him down and slap a kimura on him, though.