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pauldun170 09-16-2009 10:20 AM

Progress
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CU-k..._embedded#t=96

Adeptus_Minor 09-16-2009 10:50 AM

Rather shocking.
I had erroneously assumed that the older 'more metal' cars were stronger.

101lifts2 09-16-2009 03:13 PM

Neat.

I would say a 2009 Malibu wouldn't fair too well against a mid to late 1970s GM vehicle say a 1976 Grand Prix. Those were reinforced tanks. It's amazing how the 09 Malibu pushed its way into the BelAir driver compartment rather easily.

Now run the BelAir into a 2009 Hyundai. The Hyundai may not fair so well.

unknownroad 09-16-2009 05:12 PM

That poor, poor car! :(

Keep in mind that despite being 7" wider and more than 17" shorter, the Malibu only weighs 200lb less than the Bel Air. So even aside from design considerations, it's substantially denser than the '59.

Sean 09-16-2009 05:57 PM

But but but but...GM is an evil corporation that doesn't care about crash standards or their customers, only their bottom line and corporate jets!!!!11!!one!

Homeslice 09-16-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknownroad (Post 266707)
That poor, poor car! :(

Keep in mind that despite being 7" wider and more than 17" shorter, the Malibu only weighs 200lb less than the Bel Air. So even aside from design considerations, it's substantially denser than the '59.

And has side-impact beams, and probably stouter pillars, firewalls and shock towers. 50 years ago they didn't use CAD to design the sheetmetal for optimal rigidity. Pretty common sense.

unknownroad 09-17-2009 12:14 PM

Like I said, even aside from design. If you're referring to exterior sheetmetal, it's absolutely not designed for rigidity in most modern cars. All the strength is in the unibody. The sheetmetal is essentially skin.

Of course, on an old body-on-frame sedan, there's almost no structural hard parts more than a foot or so off the ground. It's pretty much all skin. As 101 mentioned, against a heavy unibody car like a '73 Imperial, they'd be pulling pieces of Malibu out of the walls.

Adeptus_Minor 09-17-2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknownroad (Post 267107)
Of course, on an old body-on-frame sedan, there's almost no structural hard parts more than a foot or so off the ground. It's pretty much all skin.

Ah, I didn't even think about the construction. That makes sense.

101lifts2 09-17-2009 11:05 PM

Leading the World in Safety....GM

pauldun170 09-25-2009 09:42 AM

They have an interior shot in this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xwYBBpHg1I


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