[NeonspeedRT]

I don't think the rider in the original post has even taken the MSF class yet. However even if he has, when a rider completes the MSF class, doesn't mean they are no longer a "new rider". Everyone progresses at a different level. The only way someone is no longer a "new rider" is experience and seat time.

Everyone's learning curve is different. Even if I had a star student who aced everything, come through the class. I would never think of suggesting they start on a literbike or hyperbike.

Sure they may be able to ride from point a to point b just fine. But throw in traffic, stress, the first time they go into a corner too hot, heat, cold, and the fact they are still new riders into the equation and they are asking for trouble.

Just a tidbit of info. Do you know how many motor skills it takes to correctly drive a car? Starting, stopping, shifting gears, changing lanes, parking, and so on? Roughly about 48 motor skills.

Do you know how many motor skills it takes to correctly ride a motorcycle? Starting, stopping, changing lanes, shifting gears, and so on? Closer to 240 motor skills. Big difference there.

Sure not every rider is the same. Maturity level goes along way towards the riding/learning curve. This goes back to the age old debate about starter bikes. We all know people who have started on liter bikes or bigger. Some of those "new riders" become great riders. Others make the headlines in the news.

However ask most of those people who started on bigger bikes if they wish they had started on something smaller and the majority will say yes. If you ask the guys who started on smaller bikes if they wish they had started on a bigger bike and the majority will say no.

The bottom line is no MSF coach should encourage any new rider to start out on a 12R, Busa, GSXR1000, or any liter/hyper bike.