I rarely ever put my visor down in the summer, its just a whole lot cooler inside the helmet with the visor open. In fact I haven't had my visor on my helmet for a few weeks, but I keep a pair of clear and a pair of dark ballistic glasses in the bike and switch them around as I need to. I can't get past 20 without my eyes watering to the point that I cant see. in fact if you look at my sig picture my visor is open
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