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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex
Any late '80s car that has been driven in Canada is likely a loose collection of rust, at this point 
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I looked at a Toyota mini van today as well as the Venza.. Kinda in love with the Venza. Also looked at the Mazda 5 which is nice but seems a bit smallish when you sit in the back seat as an adult. Venza + AWD = about 36K... ouchie