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Old 11-28-2008, 08:44 PM   #1
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Really though, my dad was a professional mechanic for the last 35 years and I was literally raised up in his shop. The same could be said about all domestic auto makers. I can list you a few repeats and new additions from Ford, GM, Chrysler...

Chevrolet - Citation, Cavalier, Beretta


Ford/Merc/Lincoln - Festiva, Fairlane/Grenada/Zephyr, Escort, T Bird/Cougar

Dodge / Chrysler - Lebaron, K Car, Horizon, Neon, really most of their sedan line up. Remember the Cordoba?

Thankfully most of these autos were so poorly built we didn't have to endure them for long...
i firmly disagree on k-car derivatives. ive owned two daytonas and they've been pretty damn durable. those early turbo engines required someone who wasnt a complete moron about doing maintenance

they missed the fiero. only rode in one once. about fifty feet down the road before it took a shit on itself
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:05 PM   #2
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US automakers have no one to blame but themselves. They have run shitty businesses repleate with exhorbitant overhead producing products of inferior quality to their competitors.

The sooner they go out of business and Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and VW pick up that labor force the better.

The Nissan plan in TN is the shit. The pay and benefits are on par with the Saturn plant in TN. They just produce better vehicles.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:19 PM   #3
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US automakers have no one to blame but themselves. They have run shitty businesses repleate with exhorbitant overhead producing products of inferior quality to their competitors.

The sooner they go out of business and Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and VW pick up that labor force the better.

The Nissan plan in TN is the shit. The pay and benefits are on par with the Saturn plant in TN. They just produce better vehicles.
EXACTLY... I firmly believe that if Toyota or Honda was a American founded automaker... all the other domestic brands would have been bankrupt long ago. they sell on the fact that 1 they're cheap and 2 that they're made in the US.
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Old 11-28-2008, 09:33 PM   #4
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EXACTLY... I firmly believe that if Toyota or Honda was a American founded automaker... all the other domestic brands would have been bankrupt long ago. they sell on the fact that 1 they're cheap and 2 that they're made in the US.

If the concern is that GM is "too big to fail" because of the loss of all those American jobs, why would Honda, Toyota, Nissan, etc. not build new plants and hire those displaced workers?

Wouldn't that give the US a domestic auto PRODUCTION industry without all the bad administrative and benefits legacy problems of Ford, GM, and Chrysler?

If GM, Ford, and Chrysler were gone tomorrow, what would Americans buy? Who would produce those cars?

Sometimes bankruptcy helps an ailing company to become profitable. Other times it helps an irreparably damaged company cease to exist.
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