uh oh, chrysler closing ALL plants for 1 mos

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by ducati_atx

Yup. I dont believe the bailout on the auto industry will ever end.

I also believe that those jobs will be replaced by people working in the states for Toyota, Honda, etc at wages/benefits more inline with industry standards and proportional to their experience/education. As demand grows, so will the other automakers who are actually modern and progressive not thinking what it was like 50 years ago. "Back in my day sonny...."

And in the meanwhile people default on mortgages, auto loans, etc. and the economy takes a major dump, possibly to Great Depression levels.

[ducati_atx]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

And in the meanwhile people default on mortgages, auto loans, etc. and the economy takes a major dump, possibly to Great Depression levels.

1M jobs (as proclaimed by the auto industry) vs a country with 300M+ people? Not the end of the world.

Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

Have you looked at Toyota and Honda's sales figures the last couple months?

Have you seen that they arent asking for bailouts?

[Rsv1000R]

Originally Posted by ducati_atx

Have you seen that they arent asking for bailouts?

Not yet, But I think they're about the only automakers who's not out looking for options.

Let me ask you, would you be as okay with this if it was Intel and AMD getting ready to close up?

I don't get why you think the world would be better with our choice of a Honda or a Toyota?

[ducati_atx]

Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

Let me ask you, would you be as okay with this if it was Intel and AMD getting ready to close up?

Yup - cause there will be jobs doing the same thing at ARM, IBM, SUN, Apple, Nvidia, Cisco, Mot, Freescale, Centaur, BroadCOM, Cadence, Synopsys, TSMC design services, UMC, etc. Plus, that industry isnt extending its hand - rather they are cutting expenses to work through this by themselves.

As those in the Auto manufacturing industry can work in other stateside manufacturing - of which I assume there are 1000s of companies out there doing similar work.

Nice attempt at deflection though.


(I did a few ninja edits)

[Rsv1000R]

Originally Posted by ducati_atx

Yup - cause there will be jobs doing the same thing at ARM, IBM, SUN, Apple, Nvidia, Cisco, Mot, Freescale, Centaur, BroadCOM, Cadence, Synopsys, TSMC design services, UMC, etc. Plus, that industry isnt extending its hand - rather they are cutting expenses to work through this by themselves.

Nice attempt at deflection though.

Will this seems a lot like cutting off your nose to spite your face, I'm just trying to understand why.

[ducati_atx]

Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

Will this seems a lot like cutting off your nose to spite your face, I'm just trying to understand why.

No its apples and oranges... one is a job who's main qualification is who you kow to get the job. The other is a series of jobs where a majority of the population has MBAs, Masters or PhDs who are skilled enough to get jobs in other parts of the sector. In addition, the salary rates arent above industry norms.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by tached1000rr

Sucks, the permanent full time employees will continue to be paid during the shut down, slightly less than their regular wages.... I'm originally from Detroit, and most of my family worked in those plants, most have retired but a few are sure to be at home chillin for at least a month if not longer.

It doesn't really suck

Originally Posted by RACER X

i heard the normally get 2 weeks during x-mas anyways, paid i'm sure........i would bet the next 2 are paid as well.

Yeah they get paid... the last 2 weeks are "un-enjoyment" but still pay for doing nothing

Originally Posted by Rider

I believe Ford is closing for 3 weeks as well.

True...

But here's the thing people..

STOP LISTENING TO THE FUCKIN MEDIA!!

They all close their plants EVERY fucking year this time. Same thing in June. Its the fuckin media that is taking this out of reference!!!

it use to be just the week between christmas and new years. Then they expanded it, and expanded it again. Been this way for fuckin years.

Its a good time for them, cause they don't have to pay holiday OT, the workers like it this way. Then they also don't have to worry about coverage and people wanting vacay time during the holidays.

This is fuckin normal...

[Papa_Complex]

It's normal to close, but they are closing for longer this time around.

[ducati_atx]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

They all close their plants EVERY fucking year this time. Same thing in June. Its the fuckin media that is taking this out of reference!!!

This is fuckin normal...

Normal for the auto industry perhaps.....

Id love to take June and December off while getting paid. Makes that 30/hr look a little different if one factors in the actual time worked.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by ducati_atx

Normal for the auto industry perhaps.....

Id love to take June and December off while getting paid. Makes that 30/hr look a little different if one factors in the actual time worked.

Become a professor then.