wow. local MSF inst. trying to pawn off zx-12r to a new rider

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Tmall

I think if he has an interest in making money off of motorcycling, he should NOT be an instructor.

There's a conflict of interest there.

That's a pretty stupid statement.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

That's a pretty stupid statement.

Care to elaborate? EE-LAB-OR-ATE

Our msf up here, you're not allowed to recommend any dealers. You have to remain impartial.

Proof positive that it's a conflict of interest? The guy trying sell a newbie a zx12.

Don't agree? I don't give a fuck. <-- since you only seem to understand obtuseness.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

That's a pretty stupid statement.

I tend to agree there. That or just a little odd perhaps. That would be like saying a dealer that offers MSF instruction is not worthy of teaching because they sell larger bikes than 250's. Like our local harley shop. Offers MSF and sells all types of harleys. Is this a conflict?

Trying to sell a bike that big to a newbie is out of line, as he should know better, but any rider knows that many newbs arent going to listen and get as big a bike as possible so they dont "outgrow" it too soon.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Care to elaborate? EE-LAB-OR-ATE

Our msf up here, you're not allowed to recommend any dealers. You have to remain impartial.

Proof positive that it's a conflict of interest? The guy trying sell a newbie a zx12.

Don't agree? I don't give a fuck. <-- since you only seem to understand obtuseness.

I don't think it's a conflict of interest... I think it's a case of douchebaggery.

I think MSF instructors should be allowed to work in the industry otherwise and recommend whatever they want... as long as it conforms with the MSF organization's thoughts and practices. Therefore, this guy should be allowed to sell his bike or any other motorcycle related item for profit... hell, even work for a dealer... but when he starts pawning off a non-noob bike on a noob, then the MSF should have a problem.

[RACER X]

it's his own personnal bike.

MSF really has no recommendations as far as what type or cc's , as in any gov't type they don't want to "get personnal"

i have been repremanded for 'speaking my mind' and having MSF inst. under my title.

[G-Rex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

it's his own personnal bike.

He's not really a *practice what you preach* kinda guy is he?

He should be the first one to realize that a new rider has no business with a ZX-12R.

[RACER X]

MSF really has no recommendations as far as what type or cc's , as in any gov't type they don't want to "get personnal"

i have been repremanded for 'speaking my mind' and having MSF inst. under my title.
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he's more about business then rider safety in that sense.

he really doesn't say much on bike recomends, other then "come to my shop and let the inst. tell you what kinda bike you should get"

[NeonspeedRT]

Originally Posted by G-Rex

He's not really a *practice what you preach* kinda guy is he?

He should be the first one to realize that a new rider has no business with a ZX-12R.

Thats pretty much the same thing I was thinking.

[pickle.of.doom]

Well he wouldn't be a very good MSF instructor if he didn't. The thought process is like this...


I am an MSF instructor
I trained this guy how to ride
His skills are sharp enough now to handle a 12r



Noobs are discouraged from buying big bikes because 90% of them don't go for any kind of rider training. If you are trained in riding, you are no longer a noob.

[neebelung]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I don't think it's a conflict of interest... I think it's a case of douchebaggery.

It's kinda both.

It's a conflict of interest NOT that it's his own bike, but that as an MSF instructor, you should, in short, practice what you preach. You wouldn't advise a classroom of newbies to go out and buy liter bikes, so don't turn around and try to sell him your own. He's compromising the principles he's teaching more than anything.