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Old 01-23-2009, 07:37 AM   #1
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All possible. But there were two of us, on two different bikes (his was the regular XB9R, and mine was the city cross version), different heights, different builds, same result -- we just felt like we were being shaken like a martini.



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No, Nick & I rode them at bike week last year, so they're demo models - quite possibly ridden hard & put up wet - repeatedly.

It wasn't the "raw" I didn't like, it was just the shaking, the vibration, and oh yeah, the shaking.
Buells will seriously walk across smooth pavement at idle...but once under way they are relatively smooth at speed. That is due to the uniplaner mounting system that Erik Buell invented and is now used not only on Buell but Harley-Davidson as well.

But...they aren't for everyone. I just wish more people would do what you did...ride them and then form an opinion...instead of just ripping them with no first hand knowledge.

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The rattle your fillings out feeling is about 1/2 the reason I like Buells... The bike just feels like it wants to do something... Sounds like that something maybe sex with your GF while pulling anal beads out your mom's ass... Buell's fucking rule.

You know you want another one.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:44 AM   #2
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Buells will seriously walk across smooth pavement at idle...but once under way they are relatively smooth at speed. That is due to the uniplaner mounting system that Erik Buell invented and is now used not only on Buell but Harley-Davidson as well.

But...they aren't for everyone. I just wish more people would do what you did...ride them and then form an opinion...instead of just ripping them with no first hand knowledge.
Yeah, it absolutely walked at idle.

See the thing is I LIKE the look of naked bikes and streetfighters; a friend of ours has a white citycross that he's made some mods to (made it even more streetfighter), and it's just a sick looking bike. I LOVE the way it looks, so I wish I loved the way they rode.

I guess if I ever go naked, it'll probably be a Triumph.
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Yeah, it absolutely walked at idle.

See the thing is I LIKE the look of naked bikes and streetfighters; a friend of ours has a white citycross that he's made some mods to (made it even more streetfighter), and it's just a sick looking bike. I LOVE the way it looks, so I wish I loved the way they rode.

I guess if I ever go naked, it'll probably be a Triumph.
I'm a fan of the Speed Triple. They look awesome. It was on my list of 'next' bikes...but is quickly falling off. I just love the characteristics of a vtwin...so more than likely I'll pass on the ST and go with another Buell or possibly a Ducati. Most likely a Buell.
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Old 01-23-2009, 07:49 AM   #4
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I'm a fan of the Speed Triple. They look awesome. It was on my list of 'next' bikes...but is quickly falling off. I just love the characteristics of a vtwin...so more than likely I'll pass on the ST and go with another Buell or possibly a Ducati. Most likely a Buell.
I've had a long time love affair with the Speed Triple, and then the Street Triple came along and turned it up a notch. I'd gleefully own either of them (probably the Street over the Speed, if only for the more compact size).

I do love Monsters, but I think Azoomm is the only Duc owner I know who hasn't had a slew of reliability issues.
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I've had a long time love affair with the Speed Triple, and then the Street Triple came along and turned it up a notch. I'd gleefully own either of them (probably the Street over the Speed, if only for the more compact size).

I do love Monsters, but I think Azoomm is the only Duc owner I know who hasn't had a slew of reliability issues.
I've always liked the Monster...but I'm not wild about the looks of the new ones...but the performance seems to be up a notch or two.

I love the Hyper and the 999....of course...the 1098 is growing on me.
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:25 AM   #6
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I've always liked the Monster...but I'm not wild about the looks of the new ones...but the performance seems to be up a notch or two.

I love the Hyper and the 999....of course...the 1098 is growing on me.
Just to jump in hear I love my 05 999 and it is every bit as realible as my Japanese bikes. I think like Harley stories of relaiblility issues circulate and getting bigger as they get burned into the group mind. I will happily add another Duc (1198S) as soon as the budget allows
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:56 AM   #7
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Alright, I guess I'm gonna finally chime in on this. I've ridden sportbikes and cruizers, I've ridden Honda's, Suzuki's, Yamaha's, Kawasaki's, the standard Harley, and the Buell. One night a couple of the guys I work with and I went out for a ride. The bikes were: Suzuki GSXR 600, Kawasaki ZX7, Yamaha R6, my RC51, and a Buell XB12S.

I like the way the Buell looks, the only streetfighter that looks better is the Trimuph. But the guy on the Buell traded bikes with me and we all went for a ride to Denny's at like 2am. Let me just say this, I love twins, but after that ride, I will never own a Buell. I could feel that the thing wanted to wheelie right off the bat in most any gear, and with very little throttle. The thing that cemented this decision into my head was simple. We were sitting at a a red light waiting to turn left. The light turned green so we go, but I didn't dare change gears leaned over like I can on my Honda for fear of the rear kicking out on me. So I rode through the intersection in 1st at something like 5k (damn thing redlines at ~6k). Personally it's got too much power too low and not enough power higher on the tach. My RC cruises at 80 in 5th and while it definitely likes doing better than 30mph, I felt that it was better suited for the city than the Buell, and even better for the track.

Ride what you love, and if what you love is a Buell, then good on ya.

But for the opening question, off the top of my head: the Suzuki Gladius,Honda DN01, Ducati Monster 1100, Ducati 1198, Honda 230SM, and Yamaha FZ6R.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:29 AM   #8
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I do love Monsters, but I think Azoomm is the only Duc owner I know who hasn't had a slew of reliability issues.
My buddy Ray from work has a 2006 800 Monster and he has never had any issues with it. Runs like a champ. A little under powered but it's a great little bike.
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:59 AM   #9
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Let me say up front that I have almost no seat time on a Harley powered anything.
I rode a Buell XB12R on a demo ride. We went about 20 miles on a very nice, very curvy road (Hwy 232 in TN for those that know) but were held back to about 65mph. I decided that with some set up time I could enjoy riding one, but stock they feel a bit odd, not bad, just odd. I also know that with a race kit they haul pretty good, having ridden with Fatbastard a few times. But my mind kept comparing it to a Ducati 900SS, since I know them very well and the Duc kept getting the nod for power, sound and handling.
As for the vibes at idle, I found it highly entertaining. The rubber mounted front turn signals were beating up and down so far that they looked like the wings of a bird flapping. I was LMAO at them and wondering when it would lift off. It was very smooth (for a Harley) once we were under way. Light years beyond the last Harley anything I rode, which was a 73 Sportster in 1977.
I also rode a Pan Head chopper once with a suicide clutch, hand shifter and springer forks that were about a mile long . It was better than the sportster too.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:02 AM   #10
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The rubber mounted front turn signals were beating up and down so far that they looked like the wings of a bird flapping. I was LMAO at them and wondering when it would lift off.
You noticed that too, eh?
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