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Old 01-25-2009, 11:50 PM   #1
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I'm really starting to get into MMA.
After taking a some military combatives classes, I'm thinking about finding a place where i can train in some MMA style fighting to get in shape.
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Old 01-26-2009, 12:50 AM   #2
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Is MMA big money in Vegas too? I'm sure... if there is a winner, vegas will put odds on it
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Old 01-26-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
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I haven't seen a boxing match since Tyson fought Holyfield....which was like a billion years ago.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:17 PM   #4
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It is to me. Boxing is my favorite sport. I enjoy some MMA fights. Boxing I will buy PPV pretty much all the time. Only stoped about a year ago because I haven't had the extra money. MMA I will watch when its on Spike.

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Old 01-26-2009, 05:28 PM   #5
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Boxing is sport, MMA is war. I like both in their respective ways. The combatants however are just as screwed up either way. You can't tell me that either is gonna be a long career with little in the way of long term injury.

Dirty promoters/agents, scandalous athletes, steroids, gambling, drugs, fixes..All part of the scene.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:33 AM   #6
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I like both but the more I watch MMA I do tend to watch less boxing.

I used to box and after I gave it up used to work in the corners of fighters.

I used to watch boxing all of the time but MMA is winning me over pretty much these days...there is just so much more to it.
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:51 PM   #7
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Boxing is sport, MMA is war. I like both in their respective ways. The combatants however are just as screwed up either way. You can't tell me that either is gonna be a long career with little in the way of long term injury.

Dirty promoters/agents, scandalous athletes, steroids, gambling, drugs, fixes..All part of the scene.
War? I guess you missed Gatti-Ward 1-2-3? I find it funny that you only call Boxing a sport but MMA is a "war". Then I had someone else tell me MMA is safer then Boxing.

I enjoy Boxing much more and the the perfect example why is the second last fight of the UFC the other night. Someone posted a link so I was able to see parts of the last two fights. The second last fight was won by a guy with sitting on the chest of another fighter and hitting him. Thats not an exciting fight.

I was watching a think on Frank Shamrock last night or the night before and it was showing some of this fights. It also showed a quick interview. I'm not sure when it as taken but he was talking about how he was learning more Boxing and Kick Boxing because that was where the sport was going. He said he was still going to practice his ground work but winning with striking was more exciting.

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Old 01-27-2009, 07:22 PM   #8
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i like MMA much more than boxing.
boxing nowadays is just eh, for me.
but i must say i did see the Shane Mosley fight over the weekend and it was pretty good. before that, i can't remember the last time i watched boxing.
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I was watching a think on Frank Shamrock last night or the night before and it was showing some of this fights. It also showed a quick interview. I'm not sure when it as taken but he was talking about how he was learning more Boxing and Kick Boxing because that was where the sport was going. He said he was still going to practice his ground work but winning with striking was more exciting.

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What wins in MMA will always be cyclical. I could take the cheap shot and say that Frank Shamrock hasn't had a meaningful win in a few years (oops, I did), but he's got half the answer right. Boxing or Kick Boxing may be where the sport is going (though I have my reasons I believe he's wrong), but it wouldn't be a long term thing at all. A good, technical, well rounded fighter is going to have tools from a lot of different areas to give him as many options for securing victory as is possible. It wouldn't be surprising to see someone who is trained at various levels in boxing, kickboxing, or judo (for example) to not only have an effective stand up striking game, but to recognize and react to another fighters strikes. Same with having a mix of wrestling and jiu-jitsu to be able to attack and defend with a well rounded ground game. The time of one dimensional fighters who have one trick up their sleeve is coming to an end. So while a shift on boxing and kickboxing may be in the winds, I think it's more of a search for additional tools to give a fighter an edge in a field where almost all fighters are trained in multiple disciplines. If something works and is shown to be effective, it'll be just a matter of time before the rest of the competition trains in the same skill sets and the field starts to level again. The strong, proficient fighters will always float to the top, while the fighters who make strides by having one particular talent in something not seen will fall back to the bottom or middle as it becomes more common.
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