Car and Driver apologizes for some top 10 bad calls...

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Miata came out in 1990.

CRX Si was the biggest rust bucket. My brother had one and I couldn't even lift the car up with a jack w/o going through the floor. But yeah the motor and trans were VG.

Miata available stateside July 1989.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Miata available stateside July 1989.

As a 1990 model. Nearly all vehicles are released in July the year prior for resale value reasons.

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

As a 1990 model. Nearly all vehicles are released in July the year prior for resale value reasons.

No shit, Sherlock! The list was created in response to someone's assertion that no good cars came out in the 80's. The Miata came out in the '80s irrespective of what MY label they slapped on it, and was/is a great car.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Chris S

No shit, Sherlock! The list was created in response to someone's assertion that no good cars came out in the 80's. The Miata came out in the '80s irrespective of what MY label they slapped on it, and was/is a great car.

It a 1990 model fucktard....not 80s.

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

It a 1990 model fucktard....not 80s.

Are you really that dense? (should I expect anything less from someone who used to gloat about GM making the world's best cars?) They could have called it whatever they want, but there's no doubt that it came out in '89, which last I checked was in the '80s and not the '90's. MY's are just marketing labels, they can't change history.

[pickle.of.doom]

Fine. Alot of the cars for 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the 80's sucked. Cheese?

[Racerboy]

Funny that they are coming out with this list now......a few years back they had a TOP TEN ISSUE....which included the TOP TEN WORST VEHICLES OF ALL TIME. I remember the Chevy Vega all too well. The actually repeated the advertisement from October 1969 when the car was released:

"There's something about a car that seats 4 comfortably"
"There's something about a car that gets 25 MPG"
"There's something about a car that's easy to park"
"And there something about a car that does all of these for under $2500!"
"Introducing the all noew for 1970, Chevy Vega!"

Then they followed it up with their own observation:

"There's something about a car that RUSTS in the showroom!!"


I think the Merkur XR4Ti was a great little car....I had friends who drove them in Germany and they were HOT and FAST! Here they never really caught on. Ford also made an XR3Ti based on the Escort and the XR2Ti based on the Festiva. All were sold in Europe and all did very well there.

Here is my list of the ones deserved of the honor of Worst of all time

The Ford Mustang II is an abomination of the Pinto. Crap all around
The Ford Bronco II, another bastardization of 4 wheels
The Chrysler K-Series Cars - CRAP! Plus all the spin offs from them, the New Yorker, the Omni, 400, 600, etc.
Renault Alliance - No question
Cadillac Catera - The Caddie That Zigs! - JUNK!
Lincoln Versailles - A Ford Granada with Leather seats and a continental kit - CRAP
Cadillac V8-6-4 in 1981 - Garbage
GM's attempt to convert 350ci Gas-oline engines into Diesel - Catastrophic!

I am sure there are others which should also make a list the the "Worst Ever made"

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Chris S

Are you really that dense? (should I expect anything less from someone who used to gloat about GM making the world's best cars?) They could have called it whatever they want, but there's no doubt that it came out in '89, which last I checked was in the '80s and not the '90's. MY's are just marketing labels, they can't change history.

So Sherlock is a 1990 Miata a 90s car too?

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

So Sherlock is a 1990 Miata a 90s car too?

You can call it that, but it CAME OUT in the '80s. They produced 45,000 in '89 - that's no small production run.

http://www.lautista.com.au/01/?p=469
"David James is well known in MX-5 circles, having previously been president of the Victorian MX-5 club, still being heavily involved in club events today. His example is one of the 45,000 made in 1989"