New tires....

[PhiSig1071]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey speaking of that...do you use a partner or do you use a sag measurement kit like this one...

http://www.motionpro.com/tech/articl...ing_sag_scale/

I use a few buddies to help, I don't want to be your "partner"

The problem is you need to measure sag to include when the suspension is completely unloaded, as in rear tire is off the ground. If you want to do that on your own it's kind of a bitch unless you have special stands.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

I use a few buddies to help, I don't want to be your "partner"

The problem is you need to measure sag to include when the suspension is completely unloaded, as in rear tire is off the ground. If you want to do that on your own it's kind of a bitch unless you have special stands.

Yea but you only have to measure that once and really,isn't that number in the service manual under "suspension travel"? I mean that number is never going to change right? The numbers you really need to get are when the bike is alone vs with a rider. Can't you get those using stands?

[PhiSig1071]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea but you only have to measure that once and really,isn't that number in the service manual under "suspension travel"? I mean that number is never going to change right? The numbers you really need to get are when the bike is alone vs with a rider. Can't you get those using stands?

It's a LOT more complicated than that. You are figuring out how much your suspension compresses under the weight it is supporting, that includes the weight of the bike and the rider (and gear! you'd be amazed how many people measure sag in basketball shorts and a t-shirt not taking into account how much leathers weigh). "Suspension Travel" in your owners manual is the distance from full compression to full extension, it doesn't take into account the amount your suspension settles under the weight of the bike. And because the suspension is supporting that weight you need to take it into account in your adjustments.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by PhiSig1071

It's a LOT more complicated than that. You are figuring out how much your suspension compresses under the weight it is supporting, that includes the weight of the bike and the rider (and gear! you'd be amazed how many people measure sag in basketball shorts and a t-shirt not taking into account how much leathers weigh). "Suspension Travel" in your owners manual is the distance from full compression to full extension, it doesn't take into account the amount your suspension settles under the weight of the bike. And because the suspension is supporting that weight you need to take it into account in your adjustments.

Hmmm yea but didn't you say you lift the bike until the tire is off the ground? That's full extension and the shock/fork's design will only allow it to go so far... Shoot,I thought I understood this shit! I take the max extension number for granted and adjust preload based on the bike alone vs bike with rider numbers...

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hmmm yea but didn't you say you lift the bike until the tire is off the ground? That's full extension and the shock/fork's design will only allow it to go so far... Shoot,I thought I understood this shit! I take the max extension number for granted and adjust preload based on the bike alone vs bike with rider numbers...

Correct, but you have to find out how much of that travel is being used by the bikes static weight, and then again with the weight of the rider/gear on the bike.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Correct, but you have to find out how much of that travel is being used by the bikes static weight, and then again with the weight of the rider/gear on the bike.

Wait...that made sense somehow...

[marko138]

Originally Posted by JoJoYZF

Sport rider gave the 2cts the highest ranking out of the different brands they tested, over the dcIII, bt-016, contisport attack and a few others. The test was based around tires that can be used street and track.

Yeah I read that too.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Wait...that made sense somehow...

No prob

[PhiSig1071]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Wait...that made sense somehow...

That's exactly what I said. Without lifting the bike you don't know how much the weight of the bike compresses the suspension.

Anyway, glad you got your answer.

[DLIT]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Wait...that made sense somehow...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity