929 CCT.....mod or aftermarket??

BobTheBiker · 02-19-2009, 10:27 PM

I did the bolt through stock CCT before. its really easy. let me know what yours looks like, I MAY have one that works. its out of an F2 motor, but yeah.

Dnyce · 02-19-2009, 10:47 PM

i didnt bother reading much past the fact that its a spring loaded tensioner. ape unit looks nice, but its basically a really nice version of a bolt thru stock tensioner idea. dont matter which u end up doin, u get the same result if done right-a manual tensioner.

check the tensioner whenever you check valve clearance-cant take the cams out(if you need to change shims) without backing off/taking off the cct anyway.

Dave · 02-19-2009, 10:47 PM

hrm, this is something that i had been concerned about but hadnt really looked into before. all things considered, i'll probably go the APE route. price isint too awful, has a nice bling factor, and its another collection of letters for me to add to her resume when it comes time for her to find a new home.

was92v · 02-20-2009, 07:28 AM

If your engine is not making noise, I wouldn't worry about it until it does. When it does, you've done the research.
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After the second stock CCT went south and and the cam chain sounded like metal chewing metal, I put an APE in my 600F4i. I set it up per the instructions, such as they were and it was loose as hell. I had to invent a wrench to adjust it with, since once it is down in there and the bike is back together, access to it on my bike is zilch. I am more nervous about getting it too tight than a little loose and consistently leave it too loose. I've tightened it a couple of times since I put it in. I need to give it about a 1/4 turn more, and it should be good.
I don't know anyone around here who has modified a stock CCT. I do know people who run 8 sec drag bikes making about 300HP and none of them trust their engines to a stock CCT, modified or not. What do they use? Proven parts... APE. Another stock, used engine costs about a $1000.00 and I figure the APE M-CCT is about $950 less.

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HRCNICK11 · 02-20-2009, 04:38 PM

I used the APE onmy F2 and F3 they work. Beware if you over tighten it will cause the rubber slider to wear and the bits of rubber will block off your oil pick-up. I saw this on GSXR that was in the shop my friend was the manager of.

was92v · 02-21-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HRCNICK11

I used the APE onmy F2 and F3 they work. Beware if you over tighten it will cause the rubber slider to wear and the bits of rubber will block off your oil pick-up. I saw this on GSXR that was in the shop my friend was the manager of.

Exactly why I am nervous about getting it too tight.

No Worries · 02-21-2009, 12:49 PM

I wish APE made one for my CBR1000F. The 600 CCT is on the outside of the engine. Mine is inside the engine, under the cam chain, between the intake and exhaust cams. I'm replacing it with an updated Honda one. Plus the chain. And I'm slotting the cams. I may actually finish it this spring.

HRCNICK11 · 02-22-2009, 12:51 PM

I like the chain and gear set up I have seen on some other bikes.

02-19-2009, 10:47 PM	#2
Dnyce flyin high Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: cali Moto: 10speed huffy w/cards in the spokes Posts: 2,318	i didnt bother reading much past the fact that its a spring loaded tensioner. ape unit looks nice, but its basically a really nice version of a bolt thru stock tensioner idea. dont matter which u end up doin, u get the same result if done right-a manual tensioner. check the tensioner whenever you check valve clearance-cant take the cams out(if you need to change shims) without backing off/taking off the cct anyway. __________________ "Racing Is Life, Everything Before and After is Just Waiting" Steve McQueen

02-19-2009, 10:47 PM	#3
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	hrm, this is something that i had been concerned about but hadnt really looked into before. all things considered, i'll probably go the APE route. price isint too awful, has a nice bling factor, and its another collection of letters for me to add to her resume when it comes time for her to find a new home. __________________ TWF Post whore #6

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02-19-2009, 10:27 PM	#1
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	I did the bolt through stock CCT before. its really easy. let me know what yours looks like, I MAY have one that works. its out of an F2 motor, but yeah.

02-20-2009, 07:28 AM	#4
was92v Nowhere Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	If your engine is not making noise, I wouldn't worry about it until it does. When it does, you've done the research. --------- After the second stock CCT went south and and the cam chain sounded like metal chewing metal, I put an APE in my 600F4i. I set it up per the instructions, such as they were and it was loose as hell. I had to invent a wrench to adjust it with, since once it is down in there and the bike is back together, access to it on my bike is zilch. I am more nervous about getting it too tight than a little loose and consistently leave it too loose. I've tightened it a couple of times since I put it in. I need to give it about a 1/4 turn more, and it should be good. I don't know anyone around here who has modified a stock CCT. I do know people who run 8 sec drag bikes making about 300HP and none of them trust their engines to a stock CCT, modified or not. What do they use? Proven parts... APE. Another stock, used engine costs about a $1000.00 and I figure the APE M-CCT is about $950 less. word

02-20-2009, 04:38 PM	#5
HRCNICK11 Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 429	I used the APE onmy F2 and F3 they work. Beware if you over tighten it will cause the rubber slider to wear and the bits of rubber will block off your oil pick-up. I saw this on GSXR that was in the shop my friend was the manager of.

02-21-2009, 12:49 PM	#7
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	I wish APE made one for my CBR1000F. The 600 CCT is on the outside of the engine. Mine is inside the engine, under the cam chain, between the intake and exhaust cams. I'm replacing it with an updated Honda one. Plus the chain. And I'm slotting the cams. I may actually finish it this spring.

02-22-2009, 12:51 PM	#8
HRCNICK11 Canyon Carver Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 429	I like the chain and gear set up I have seen on some other bikes.