Looking for a sports car bargain: $5K rebate on '08 Miatas!

[Chris S]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

When the Miata came out it was under 15k..now its 30k and its the same CAR!!!!

Why would I pay double for the same shit? At least the Americans make the cars totally different.

OK, you're really showing your blatant ignorance for a so-called car dude! I never paid much attention to the NC till I saw a well-prepped one. I can hang w/ if not beat most 1st/2nd gen Miatas at Harris Hill Road. I saw a white one not only pass me like I was standing still, but lap me in a 20 minute session. He hangs w/ Elises/Exiges, and says he's 0.2 secs. faster than the top Cayman lap time.

Did the '90 Miata have any of the following?
- 166 hp - much more power and tq.
- 6 sp. tranny
- keyless entry/ignition w/ integrated alarm
- leather, heated seats w/ adj. height
- 200W Bose stereo (I generally hate Bose, but this one sounds pretty good)
- 5 link rear suspension
- greater mass centralization
- HID headlights + foglights
- side impact airbags
- enough space to be comfy on a long drive
- stability control
- one handed top raising/lowering w/ no need for a tonneau cover
- 17" wheels w/ sticky rubber
- tilt steering
- much, much stiffer chassis

Even w/ all that stuff, it's still by far the lightest sports car on the market that isn't a Lotus.

I have a 2nd gen, and trust me, I didn't buy it just b/c I had money laying around that I didn't know what to do w/!

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Chris S

OK, you're really showing your blatant ignorance for a so-called car dude! I never paid much attention to the NC till I saw a well-prepped one. I can hang w/ if not beat most 1st/2nd gen Miatas at Harris Hill Road. I saw a white one not only pass me like I was standing still, but lap me in a 20 minute session. He hangs w/ Elises/Exiges, and says he's 0.2 secs. faster than the top Cayman lap time.

Did the '90 Miata have any of the following?
- 166 hp - much more power and tq.
- 6 sp. tranny
- keyless entry/ignition w/ integrated alarm
- leather, heated seats w/ adj. height
- 200W Bose stereo (I generally hate Bose, but this one sounds pretty good)
- 5 link rear suspension
- greater mass centralization
- HID headlights + foglights
- side impact airbags
- enough space to be comfy on a long drive
- stability control
- one handed top raising/lowering w/ no need for a tonneau cover
- 17" wheels w/ sticky rubber
- tilt steering
- much, much stiffer chassis

Even w/ all that stuff, it's still by far the lightest sports car on the market that isn't a Lotus.

I have a 2nd gen, and trust me, I didn't buy it just b/c I had money laying around that I didn't know what to do w/!

I am speaking of the body design, not Stability control, which is mandated for any vehicle past 2007. I'm betting it has a tire pressure monitor system too, right? lol

And my car knowlegde is knowing how shit operates, not memorizing book spec. knowledge and whether the dashboard is "tight" or not.

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I am speaking of the body design,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Miata

They have pictures by generation.
If you can't see the difference there, you're just being hard-headed.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Miata

They have pictures by generation.
If you can't see the difference there, you're just being hard-headed.

I can see them, but most people can't. Verus take a 2004 Malibu vs a 2005 then vs. a 2008. Very different looking cars.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Chris S

.....Did the '90 Miata have any of the following?
- 166 hp - much more power and tq.
- 6 sp. tranny
- keyless entry/ignition w/ integrated alarm
- leather, heated seats w/ adj. height
- 200W Bose stereo (I generally hate Bose, but this one sounds pretty good)
- 5 link rear suspension
- greater mass centralization
- HID headlights + foglights
- side impact airbags
- enough space to be comfy on a long drive
- stability control
- one handed top raising/lowering w/ no need for a tonneau cover
- 17" wheels w/ sticky rubber
- tilt steering
- much, much stiffer chassis

These are moderate upgrades, not a change over of the design. I mean any car company can add these in the simple 3 year life cycle of a vehicle.

[Homeslice]

Dude the entire chassis and platform is new.

As for a V8 transplant, that's better-suited for an RX7, not a Miata IMO.