GM Cancels 29mpg 4.5L Diesel Engine

[wildchild]

guess I'm stupid then (according to homeslice anyway) oh me oh my I think I'll go kill myself now. my truck listed at 32K thanks. (didn't pay anywhere near that) and it gets 15.7 MPG and for the first 6 years of it's life it was my only vehicle. Would I have rather had something more fun (last time I checked funner wasn't a word) to drive. ummm no. For fun I have a bike, well and a couple more cars that you really wouldn't like.
Sometimes you can't afford to have more then one vehicle, or maybe you don't have room for more then one. You choose the one that fits your life the best. For some it's a truck. It's not stupid just because it doesn't fit your ideals of how people should live.
Do I need it? I don't know, bring me your little car and lets see if it can do what I need my truck to do. Funny I have a friend from Cali who regularly scowls at my truck. That is until I tell him to let me use his little truck for the weekend and then I'll get rid of mine.
Do I need the trailers, cars and other things that I do with the truck? Nope, but that's why I went to school and got a good job, so I could have more then just the bare necessities in my life.

[shmike]

My truck gets about 13mpg.

My wife's Accord gets 30-ish and handles better.

She just started working recently. We have a 20 mile commute. Her office is 7blocks from mine.

When convenient, we'll carpool.

Guess which vehicle stays at home?

The Accord.

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by shmike

My truck gets about 13mpg.

My wife's Accord gets 30-ish and handles better.

She just started working recently. We have a 20 mile commute. Her office is 7blocks from mine.

When convenient, we'll carpool.

Guess which vehicle stays at home?

The Accord.

That was going to be my guess.

[Quick281]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Of course not..........But how often does that happen?

Around here, the average sportbike owner just hauls his own bike, and nothing more. Maybe 2 if he's carpooling w/someone. I'm just saying a lot of guys seem to exaggerate their need for a truck. You see them driving Tundras when a Tacoma would have sufficed

Since we are talking about the motorcycle people, we assume that they don't need a truck to haul their bike. I think it is a mistake to assume people buy trucks specifically to haul their motorcycle around. Most times I would assume people bought their personal vehicle long before a bike was in their realistic goals.


I still don't understand why anyone compares my F250 Diesel to a 4 banger of any make or model. This thing has a 7.3 engine, weighs 8,000 lbs and gets between 15 and 18 mpg. I have 4 wheel drive, 4 doors, and can move just about anything.

A civic, integra, celica or what not has an engine almost 1/4 the size of mine, weighs maybe 3,000 lbs?, isn't 4x4, can carry 4 or 5 people without the same amount of comfort, cannot realistically tow a heavy load (meaning more than a small sportsbike) but yes it fucking gets 10 miles per gallon more than mine.

Does that actually surprise anyone? I hope not.

Once Honda, Toyota and Nissan bring out a truck with a big displacement engine with amazing mpg, then we can yell at Detroit for falling behind.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Quick281

.....Once Honda, Toyota and Nissan bring out a truck with a big displacement engine with amazing mpg, then we can yell at Detroit for falling behind.

LOL...sig material.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by shmike

My truck gets about 13mpg.

My wife's Accord gets 30-ish and handles better.

She just started working recently. We have a 20 mile commute. Her office is 7blocks from mine.

When convenient, we'll carpool.

Guess which vehicle stays at home?

The Accord.

Why?

Do you actually like driving the truck more than the Accord? If so, more power to you................but IMO there's lots of people who would probably be happier with a car, and the only reason they bought a truck or SUV was because of all the heavy advertising that brainwashes people into believing they need an SUV for image reasons, and because they say you need an SUV in order to successfully negotiate the "suburban jungle". Seriously, if you watch ads for SUVs, they don't show the SUV towing anything, they just show it driving downtown with friends going clubbing or something, with trendy-looking people behind the wheel, to make it look like the cool thing to buy.........and then they show a "rugged" segment with them driving thru rainy weather or a construction zone, like as if a regular car can't do that.

[Quick281]

So if we shouldn't buy more than we need, wtf are we all doing on race inspired sportbikes when we could be riding much higher mpg scooters that would still take us through the mountains when we wanted to?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Quick281

So if we shouldn't buy more than we need, wtf are we all doing on race inspired sportbikes when we could be riding much higher mpg scooters that would still take us through the mountains when we wanted to?

Because sportbikes are funner than scooters. But is the average SUV funner than the average car?

[Quick281]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Because sportbikes are funner than scooters. But is the average SUV funner than the average car?

Bikes usually are purchased for recreational purposes. Cars and trucks typically aren't.



They are bought because of their variety of uses to the owner. Are passenger cars more useful than trucks? No. More efficient at moving people? Yes.

I will think of you the next time I pass a bus.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Quick281

Bikes usually are purchased for recreational purposes. Cars and trucks typically aren't.



They are bought because of their variety of uses to the owner. Are passenger cars more useful than trucks? No. More efficient at moving people? Yes.

How a vehicle drives and handles is not what I'd call a "recreational purpose".......I call it one of the top priorities. Why spend a lot of money on any car or truck unless it's fun to drive? You spend a lot of time behind the wheel, and it's a waste unless you're getting something in return.