If you have not crashed: What does it mean???

[Rsv1000R]

On the dirt, if you don't crash you're not going fast enough. And it doesn't have to mean you're fast, just going faster than you should have. I've crashed my dirt bike many times.
I've crashed once on the street, when a deer ran out. We were going pretty slow under35 so speed wasn't a factor.

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Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

On the dirt, if you don't crash you're not going fast enough. And it doesn't have to mean you're fast, just going faster than you should have. I've crashed my dirt bike many times.
I've crashed once on the street, when a deer ran out. We were going pretty slow under35 so speed wasn't a factor.

Ah but were location or time of day? Were you paying complete attention or were you "sight seeing"?

[Rsv1000R]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Ah but were location or time of day? Were you paying complete attention or were you "sight seeing"?

It was near dusk, and it was rural, though it was close to where I live which is rural.
We were just putting along, I noticed a headlight in my mirror, checked my speed a bit under 35, and my wife told me to watch the deer. It was 2 lane, in the left lane crossing was a deer, being followed by one on the right. That one veered in the direction we were going, I probably could have reached out and touched it. When my wife called out, I closed the throttle (HD twin cam), and started braking as soon as I saw them and knew where they were. I thought he was getting ready to jump across the front of the bike, and moved more toward the center of the road and increased my braking. I don't know if he hit the front tire, or I locked the front tire. But we went down.

I had lots of involvement in our crash.

[Particle Man]

It means you haven't crashed. Don't read more into it than is actually there.

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Originally Posted by Rsv1000R

It was near dusk, and it was rural, though it was close to where I live which is rural.
We were just putting along, I noticed a headlight in my mirror, checked my speed a bit under 35, and my wife told me to watch the deer. It was 2 lane, in the left lane crossing was a deer, being followed by one on the right. That one veered in the direction we were going, I probably could have reached out and touched it. When my wife called out, I closed the throttle (HD twin cam), and started braking as soon as I saw them and knew where they were. I thought he was getting ready to jump across the front of the bike, and moved more toward the center of the road and increased my braking. I don't know if he hit the front tire, or I locked the front tire. But we went down.

I had lots of involvement in our crash.

Thanks for that anyway... This is kinda funny to me. I'm the POSITIVE one for a change and everyone else is trying to prove that something negative is going to happen no matter what we do as motorcyclists.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Thanks for that anyway... This is kinda funny to me. I'm the POSITIVE one for a change and everyone else is trying to prove that something negative is going to happen no matter what we do as motorcyclists.

We're not being negative. We're being realistic. What do you think the percentage is of people who don't wreck? What do you think the odds are of not crashing ever?

I'm really not trying to be negative. But, I bet the odds of never losing control of your motorcycle are up there with taking home a sizable sum of money in the lottery.

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Originally Posted by Tmall

We're not being negative. We're being realistic. What do you think the percentage is of people who don't wreck? What do you think the odds are of not crashing ever?

I'm really not trying to be negative. But, I bet the odds of never losing control of your motorcycle are up there with taking home a sizable sum of money in the lottery.

Okay, I can't find the actuarial tables but I still find it hard to believe that insurance companies would write policies knowing that 100% of their clients will eventually crash. Oh well, I just don't like absolutes I guess... If even one dork in North Dakota rides a rebel 250 for one Summer without a crash, it destroys your stated POV IMHO.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Okay, I can't find the actuarial tables but I still find it hard to believe that insurance companies would write policies knowing that 100% of their clients will eventually crash. Oh well, I just don't like absolutes I guess... If even one dork in North Dakota rides a rebel 250 for one Summer without a crash, it destroys your stated POV IMHO.

If 8 people take the msf without dropping the bike once, then never ride again would you count them as well? They quit riding, to me that's worse than a crash. IMHO