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Old 06-12-2009, 04:31 PM   #1
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When the deer ran out in front of us and we crashed, I would have to say time slowed, I was fully aware while trying to "solve" my problem, right up to the point where I presume the bike fell over, as I don't remember anything from that point until I recall my face hitting the pavement. I don't know if that "gap" was only an instant, or if it was longer. But I know I didn't panic, I was clear headed, hyper aware.

What I'm wondering is, for the women who've been in similar circumstances, how did they react?

I wonder if in those instances men and women think/reach differently? Which could explain why women end up being slower, as they get into the same area of imminent danger do they back down, or hold their ground?
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:38 PM   #2
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I think a lot of the gals on here would be an exception and not cringe or back down to a threat but the majority of women in general would. They would have closed their eyes, screamed and hoped for the best. Walk up to a guy with no warning toss a small ball at their head, most guys are gona duck or catch it or knock it down, most girls will close their eyes and turn and flinch.

Fight or flight mentality and men will be more likely to stay and fight. There are always exceptions....
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:04 PM   #3
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I think a lot of the gals on here would be an exception and not cringe or back down to a threat but the majority of women in general would. They would have closed their eyes, screamed and hoped for the best. Walk up to a guy with no warning toss a small ball at their head, most guys are gona duck or catch it or knock it down, most girls will close their eyes and turn and flinch.

Fight or flight mentality and men will be more likely to stay and fight. There are always exceptions....
Possibly but as before, most girls don't grow up having things thrown at them almost every day! Boys are constantly throwing things at each other which conditions you to better react to high speed impact situations. Imho.
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Old 06-12-2009, 04:59 PM   #4
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When the deer ran out in front of us and we crashed, I would have to say time slowed, I was fully aware while trying to "solve" my problem, right up to the point where I presume the bike fell over, as I don't remember anything from that point until I recall my face hitting the pavement. I don't know if that "gap" was only an instant, or if it was longer. But I know I didn't panic, I was clear headed, hyper aware.

What I'm wondering is, for the women who've been in similar circumstances, how did they react?

I wonder if in those instances men and women think/reach differently? Which could explain why women end up being slower, as they get into the same area of imminent danger do they back down, or hold their ground?
I think how you react in "oh shit" situations is based a lot on your experience level. Many guys I have spoken to have had accidents where a car pulls out and "there was nothing I could do so I laid it down" In many cases that is lack of experience to think things through under pressure. I'm not sure how women would differ from men in that case.
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Old 06-12-2009, 06:21 PM   #5
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I think how you react in "oh shit" situations is based a lot on your experience level. Many guys I have spoken to have had accidents where a car pulls out and "there was nothing I could do so I laid it down" In many cases that is lack of experience to think things through under pressure. I'm not sure how women would differ from men in that case.
See that is totally what I was saying. Almost every accident I've ever witnessed, I am almost certain it could have been avoided.

Boys are encouraged to race everything. It wouldn't surprise me to find out my Dad had me go toe to toe with the neighbor's kid in our walkers! Boys are raised speed competitive. That gives us a lifetime of "crashes" and "near misses" to draw on. I'm not bragging here but one thing I never do is panic. I concede that some of that may be genetic, some may be environmental, but I'm certain that most of it comes from my experience dealing with crisis/imminent danger situations. Not my gender.
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Old 06-12-2009, 11:03 PM   #6
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That reminds me of something - speaking of reaction- time/effectiveness, I can relate a recent 'oh shit' incident where Kathy's observation & reaction was every bit as quick if not a little quicker than mine would have been. A big doe (not the ray-me kind!) scampered right in front of us as she was driving along ~50mph. As I was starting to point & about to yell a warning, she was already on it & had it hauled-down right at the limit of ABS engagement, stopping to a slow roll about 5' shy of splattering Bambi's mom. Tightest pucker either of us have had in a long time! (impressed me & me proud of her too )
Point being, my 'male instincts' wouldn't have made a bit of difference & it was a matter of individual reaction time/skills. So I think your point holds water too, Tigger.



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Old 06-12-2009, 05:59 PM   #7
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When the deer ran out in front of us and we crashed, I would have to say time slowed, I was fully aware while trying to "solve" my problem, right up to the point where I presume the bike fell over, as I don't remember anything from that point until I recall my face hitting the pavement. I don't know if that "gap" was only an instant, or if it was longer. But I know I didn't panic, I was clear headed, hyper aware.

What I'm wondering is, for the women who've been in similar circumstances, how did they react?

I wonder if in those instances men and women think/reach differently? Which could explain why women end up being slower, as they get into the same area of imminent danger do they back down, or hold their ground?

Hmmm interesting point. The last time I hit a deer, last August, I remember everything that happened, when I first saw the animal, what I did to try and avoid the collision, when I decided to "square up" and take the hit and the steps I took post-collision to keep from hitting the pavement and an oncoming car. Perhaps "panic/fear" is a possible cause but I still could maintain that our divergent gender specific upbringing may have just better prepared us for this type of situation. There aren't a lot of imminent collision circumstances involved during teddy bear tea parties or playing with a Barbie Dream House. Hell, we were always pushing it on our bicycles and our favorite games involved throwing things at each other-rocks, balls, snowballs, sticks, walnuts, you name it. How the different sexes react in "crisis" situations may be part of the problem, but is it biological or is it conditioned? Heck, I've seen fags act worse than little girls when they are about to be hit.
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