Left foot out on left handed turns

[zed]

Originally Posted by Avatard

I'm sure everyone here knows about countersteer. Push on the left bar, go left (not right as many might assume). Try this: Stomp your left peg, and see what happens. Yep, that's right, you turn left.

In fact, the fastest way to change direction (a lifesaver when some fucktard pulls out in front of you on the street) is to both push the left bar, and stomp the left peg, at the same time.

I'm just guessing here, but think the doctor may be using this phenomenon to his advantage to make the bike turn in faster...

in the picture provided though, it looks like they are going into a right hand turn and his right foot is off the peg.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by zed

in the picture provided though, it looks like they are going into a right hand turn and his right foot is off the peg.

Which is entirely congruent with what I'm saying.

Stomp the right peg, and you turn right.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Which is entirely congruent with what I'm saying.

Stomp the right peg, and you turn right.

Nah, he's not stomping, he could do that without lifting the leg. If you watch it, it's a very slow movement to stick the leg out and not something you would do if you were stomping with the other side. Almost looks like he is doing a stablization movement as if he was walking a wire in the circus.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Which is entirely congruent with what I'm saying.

Stomp the right peg, and you turn right.

I tried the whole "body steering" vs. "counter steering" thing years back and figured out that all body steering was doing, was imparting a sloppy counter steer input to the handlebars. It took a fair bit of on-track analysis to come to that conclusion, but eventually I got there. Code ultimately proved the superiority of counter steering with his body steering bike, but I got there before him

[t-homo]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

I tried the whole "body steering" vs. "counter steering" thing years back and figured out that all body steering was doing, was imparting a sloppy counter steer input to the handlebars. It took a fair bit of on-track analysis to come to that conclusion, but eventually I got there. Code ultimately proved the superiority of counter steering with his body steering bike, but I got there before him

So do you sit straight up in the seat when you go through corners or not put any input to the handlebars at all?

How I do it is use my body for the majority of steering, then use countersteering to make minor adjustments to my line.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by t-rock

So do you sit straight up in the seat when you go through corners or not put any input to the handlebars at all?

How I do it is use my body for the majority of steering, then use countersteering to make minor adjustments to my line.

Counter steering induces lean. Lean makes you corner. Centre of gravity alters lean once it has been created, which changes your line.

You can induce lean by yanking your whole body to the side but the amount that you induce will be small when compared to what you get from counter steering and the faster you go, the less lean you can get that way because of gyroscopic stabilization.

Trust me here; it isn't your body that's making the major inputs.

[101lifts2]

I think in an interview Valentino said it helps prepare for the corner and didn't turn the bike any faster.

[derf]

I think he has gas and is just helping the fart out faster