clutch started slipping today

[JoshuaTree]

Clutch cable in proper adjustment / actuation range? Checked the old oil for particulate / metal flakes (i.e. destroying clutch plates / steel)?

To save you some time...

Barnett Performance

[Amber Lamps]

Almost forgot. you changed the fluid, are you sure you didn't get any bubbles/air? No offense but are you sure that Dot4 is the correct fluid? I still wonder if you "accidentally" got the Honda oil with Moly...you wouldn't be the first guy to do it!

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Almost forgot. you changed the fluid, are you sure you didn't get any bubbles/air? No offense but are you sure that Dot4 is the correct fluid? I still wonder if you "accidentally" got the Honda oil with Moly...you wouldn't be the first guy to do it!

I have a big siphon that I used to pull the fluid out of the reservoir. I did not touch the clutch lever until I refilled it.

I'm positive it's DOT 4 as it is cast into the cover for both the brakes and the clutch. ( but thanks for asking )

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

I have a big siphon that I used to pull the fluid out of the reservoir. I did not touch the clutch lever until I refilled it.

I'm positive it's DOT 4 as it is cast into the cover for both the brakes and the clutch. ( but thanks for asking )

Hey just a thought... it's the suddenness of it that puzzles me, besides I always had the clutch give me grief in the higher gears first before it went out completely. It just seems that it has to be something to do with the fluid or the oil, you know? If you used synthetic or oil with friction modifiers in the last change, it would take a while to affect the clutch, so that made sense to me. Oh well, good luck bro! You can try bleeding the clutch system just in case.... it definitely takes less time than taking it apart.

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

think maybe the shift dogs are worn a bit?

It seemed to shift fine. This is more of a sudden problem.

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Have you been using Honda oil WITH Moly? That's a no no with some wet clutch bikes!

Honda Pro GN-4 Changed at 19K with 20w-50, at 22k with 10w-40 and now at 24.5K with 20w-50.

I still have all the old containers and it says nothing about moly on the label.

Originally Posted by JoshuaTree

Clutch cable in proper adjustment / actuation range? Checked the old oil for particulate / metal flakes (i.e. destroying clutch plates / steel)?

To save you some time...

Barnett Performance

Thanks for the Barnett link. That will probably be what I purchase if it is the clutch itself.

No noticable "extras" in the oil and nothing in the bottom of the drain pan.

No clutch cable as it's hydraulic. I need to check range of motion. It did feel different before I pulled the cover off the left side. Maybe I'll put it back on and recheck and maybe bleed some fluid thru before I disassemble the clutch.

Thanks

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

It seemed to shift fine. This is more of a sudden problem.


Honda Pro GN-4 Changed at 19K with 20w-50, at 22k with 10w-40 and now at 24.5K with 20w-50.

I still have all the old containers and it says nothing about moly on the label.




Thanks for the Barnett link. That will probably be what I purchase if it is the clutch itself.

No noticable "extras" in the oil and nothing in the bottom of the drain pan.

No clutch cable as it's hydraulic. I need to check range of motion. It did feel different before I pulled the cover off the left side. Maybe I'll put it back on and recheck and maybe bleed some fluid thru before I disassemble the clutch.

Thanks

When was the last time you replaced the springs?

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

When was the last time you replaced the springs?

Hey that's a thought, maybe you had a spring break? hell, or the clutch basket, a plate, etc... hmmm....

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

When was the last time you replaced the springs?

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey that's a thought, maybe you had a spring break? hell, or the clutch basket, a plate, etc... hmmm....

They are OEM springs.

I was just reading on the ZRXoa forum and somebody had a similar problem that was the clutch actuator. He was able to look at the clutch plates move thru the oil fill.

I'm back to the garage

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

They are OEM springs.

I was just reading on the ZRXoa forum and somebody had a similar problem that was the clutch actuator. He was able to look at the clutch plates move thru the oil fill.

I'm back to the garage

If they are the original springs you may want replace em if you are going to be in there and it turns out the you need to the replace clutch

General rule I follow
Aftermarket springs
OEM plates

My clutch started to go at about 25K but I nipped it in the butt at the first sign of slippage

[BobTheBiker]

Kawi is notorious for using crappy springs, replace em with stiffer springs and service the actuator mechanism. is likely that your actuator isn working rght.