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Rembrant · 07-28-2009, 10:41 PM

If Fedor does goes to the UFC I'm sure s Fedor vs Lesner would happen at some point. Wonder if Vitor Belfort is going to go back to the UFC also. The guy awesome when he first came in the UFC but after a couple of losses to Colture he just wasn't the same, still an awesome fighter.

OneSickPsycho · 07-30-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rembrant

If Fedor does goes to the UFC I'm sure s Fedor vs Lesner would happen at some point. Wonder if Vitor Belfort is going to go back to the UFC also. The guy awesome when he first came in the UFC but after a couple of losses to Colture he just wasn't the same, still an awesome fighter.

So until recently, I've been pretty Fedor-ignorant. I just took all that shit on face value that he's an MMA god... Then I watched a dozen or so of his fights... Now I'm pretty sure if Fedor does get a shot against Lesnar, he will get dropped on his head until his bowels release and the fight is called.

I am NOT impressed with Fedor AT ALL.

z06boy · 07-30-2009, 10:28 AM

I hope Fedor pounds Lesner.

I don't care if Fedor loses later...even in a rematch to Lesner at some point but if he pounds Lesner I will lmao !!

Having said this though...I won't be betting on it since I learned a lesson the hard way "thinking" CroCop would come in to the UFC and be impressive.

TYEster · 07-30-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

So until recently, I've been pretty Fedor-ignorant. I just took all that shit on face value that he's an MMA god... Then I watched a dozen or so of his fights... Now I'm pretty sure if Fedor does get a shot against Lesnar, he will get dropped on his head until his bowels release and the fight is called.

I am NOT impressed with Fedor AT ALL.

Which fights did you watch of his?

The only fight I've seen anyone come close to beating Fedors head in, was the CroCop K1 fight that was a split decision in Fedors favor(probably because he was reigning champ)

I know he's got 1 loss to his name, but I haven't seen the fight, nor do I know who it was against.

OneSickPsycho · 07-30-2009, 06:43 PM

Like I said, I watched a bunch of his fights... The two that were supposed tobe the most impressive. According to the googling I did were Randleman and gary goodrich or or some shit... Neither impressed me with Fedors alledged greatness...

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Originally Posted by TYEster

Which fights did you watch of his?

The only fight I've seen anyone come close to beating Fedors head in, was the CroCop K1 fight that was a split decision in Fedors favor(probably because he was reigning champ)

I know he's got 1 loss to his name, but I haven't seen the fight, nor do I know who it was against.

defector · 07-30-2009, 07:15 PM

Let's see... the last 3 Fedor fights I have seen he has defeated:
Andrei Arlovski - at one time considered by many to be "the next great HW", but in reality may have the chin of Glass Joe
Some gigantic Chinese dude Hong Man Choi- literally like almost 8ft tall with relatively little skill
Pig Sylvia -Nuff said there.

Last loss was in 2000, via cut in round 1 (like 30 seconds into the fight)to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka (but came back later to beat him by TKO)

Not a bad list of names to have wins against:
"Babalu" Sobral
Semmy Schilt
Heath Herring
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (multiple times)
Fujita
Gary Goodridge
Mark Coleman (multiple times)
Kevin Randleman
Cro Cop
Mark Hunt

I think what it is is that Fedor has fought pretty much everyone put in front of him and won. Also for a HW, he has most of his wins by sub, not by KO. I was really looking forward to him fighting Josh Barnett (before Barnett got busted for roids). I think it may have been the only real test he has had in years.
Fuck it, I say have him and Kimbo go at it.

Corey · 07-30-2009, 07:57 PM

No surprise. Called this shit last year. They built a promotion around Fedor, and when he hasn't been on the card, they've cancelled the events. It's the same mess that Elite XC went through by building their promotion around Kimbo.

Affliction clothing is still in business and will be announcing some collaboration shit with UFC tomorrow in a press conference. The clothing ban has been lifted by UFC so you'll see more of their sponsored fighters wearing their gear in the ring again, and most likely, them sponsoring more fighters.

The problem with Fedor coming to the UFC is less about Fedor and more about his managing team, M-1 Global. They're the ones arranging all the contract shit. Their big thing, aside from wanting too much money, is that they want all events with Fedor to be co-sponsored between them and UFC. Not a chance in hell that the UFC is going to co-anything. Fedor also wants to be able to go fight at other promotions and do his Sambo tournaments, which also goes against the UFC grain. I could see them possibly bending to let him do the Sambo thing, but I don't see them bending on giving M-1 Global any kind of co-producing/co-sponsor/co-billing. That'd be like the NFL co-sponsoring all Dallas Cowboy games with the Arena Football League. Dana White has already said that Fedor's first fight in the UFC would be a title shot against Lesnar, so they're game to get him the fight he wants, but his management team will end up being the one who sinks any Fedor/UFC deal.

defector · 08-01-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey

The problem with Fedor coming to the UFC is less about Fedor and more about his managing team, M-1 Global. They're the ones arranging all the contract shit. Their big thing, aside from wanting too much money, is that they want all events with Fedor to be co-sponsored between them and UFC. Not a chance in hell that the UFC is going to co-anything. Fedor also wants to be able to go fight at other promotions and do his Sambo tournaments, which also goes against the UFC grain. I could see them possibly bending to let him do the Sambo thing, but I don't see them bending on giving M-1 Global any kind of co-producing/co-sponsor/co-billing. Dana White has already said that Fedor's first fight in the UFC would be a title shot against Lesnar, so they're game to get him the fight he wants, but his management team will end up being the one who sinks any Fedor/UFC deal.

Fedor is M1 Global. He is part owner of it, last I heard.

Back in the day, the UFC wanted to co promote (remember when they allowed Chuck to fight in Pride? Hell, Dana White was one of the commentators!).
But now they are the big dog in the yard, so it really isn't necessary...they call the shots, and they know it. They don't need Fedor, as much as Fedor would need them, so to speak.

OneSickPsycho · 08-03-2009, 06:08 PM

In the heavy's not many are impressive... Carwin looks good but has never been challenged... GSP, Silva, Machida are impressive... I'm veryimpresed with Florian and am really looking forward to this weekend....

The problem with Fedor other than his feeding off of weak competition is that he's not really a heavyweight... He's a light heavyweight. Who doesn't cut weight.

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Originally Posted by Triple

If you're not impressed with Fedor... who in the sport ARE you impressed with?

The guy is the fastest, most dominant heavyweight the division has ever seen. He's beaten world-class wrestlers and grapplers on the ground and stood toe to toe with champion kick-boxers.

If he doesn't retire, he will eventually lose. It is possible Lesnar could beat him, just not likely. I think Fedor's kryptonite will be a fighter smaller and faster than he is, someone who normally fights as a middleweight or light heavyweight. Fedor trimming down to fight at 205 pounds would give him much more difficult competition than what he's faced as a heavyweight.

defector · 08-03-2009, 08:22 PM

Either Dana White is truly pissed, or a great salesman:

"Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!"

White also addressed fans: "I feel sorry for the real fight fans. I wanted to make the deal, but it takes two and it is very obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best, and doesn't give a sh-t about the fans!"

I would still watch Fedor vs Overeem, or Fedor vs "Grimm" Rogers.

07-30-2009, 07:57 PM	#7
Corey AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida Moto: Not a damn thing Posts: 2,612	No surprise. Called this shit last year. They built a promotion around Fedor, and when he hasn't been on the card, they've cancelled the events. It's the same mess that Elite XC went through by building their promotion around Kimbo. Affliction clothing is still in business and will be announcing some collaboration shit with UFC tomorrow in a press conference. The clothing ban has been lifted by UFC so you'll see more of their sponsored fighters wearing their gear in the ring again, and most likely, them sponsoring more fighters. The problem with Fedor coming to the UFC is less about Fedor and more about his managing team, M-1 Global. They're the ones arranging all the contract shit. Their big thing, aside from wanting too much money, is that they want all events with Fedor to be co-sponsored between them and UFC. Not a chance in hell that the UFC is going to co-anything. Fedor also wants to be able to go fight at other promotions and do his Sambo tournaments, which also goes against the UFC grain. I could see them possibly bending to let him do the Sambo thing, but I don't see them bending on giving M-1 Global any kind of co-producing/co-sponsor/co-billing. That'd be like the NFL co-sponsoring all Dallas Cowboy games with the Arena Football League. Dana White has already said that Fedor's first fight in the UFC would be a title shot against Lesnar, so they're game to get him the fight he wants, but his management team will end up being the one who sinks any Fedor/UFC deal. __________________ Half man, half horse, half motorcycle. All awesome. "Your game is shit, your company is shit. Activision ruined you! Activision ruined you." - Francis

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07-28-2009, 10:41 PM	#1
Rembrant Trailer Queen Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kansas Moto: 2009 Suzuki GSX-R 600 Posts: 10	If Fedor does goes to the UFC I'm sure s Fedor vs Lesner would happen at some point. Wonder if Vitor Belfort is going to go back to the UFC also. The guy awesome when he first came in the UFC but after a couple of losses to Colture he just wasn't the same, still an awesome fighter.

07-30-2009, 10:28 AM	#3
z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	I hope Fedor pounds Lesner. I don't care if Fedor loses later...even in a rematch to Lesner at some point but if he pounds Lesner I will lmao !! Having said this though...I won't be betting on it since I learned a lesson the hard way "thinking" CroCop would come in to the UFC and be impressive.

07-30-2009, 07:15 PM	#6
defector My balls, your chin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The desert of Az Moto: 929, SV650, YZ250 Posts: 1,917	Let's see... the last 3 Fedor fights I have seen he has defeated: Andrei Arlovski - at one time considered by many to be "the next great HW", but in reality may have the chin of Glass Joe Some gigantic Chinese dude Hong Man Choi- literally like almost 8ft tall with relatively little skill Pig Sylvia -Nuff said there. Last loss was in 2000, via cut in round 1 (like 30 seconds into the fight)to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka (but came back later to beat him by TKO) Not a bad list of names to have wins against: "Babalu" Sobral Semmy Schilt Heath Herring Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (multiple times) Fujita Gary Goodridge Mark Coleman (multiple times) Kevin Randleman Cro Cop Mark Hunt I think what it is is that Fedor has fought pretty much everyone put in front of him and won. Also for a HW, he has most of his wins by sub, not by KO. I was really looking forward to him fighting Josh Barnett (before Barnett got busted for roids). I think it may have been the only real test he has had in years. Fuck it, I say have him and Kimbo go at it.

08-03-2009, 08:22 PM	#10
defector My balls, your chin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The desert of Az Moto: 929, SV650, YZ250 Posts: 1,917	Either Dana White is truly pissed, or a great salesman: "Fedor is a f---ing joke," UFC President Dana White responded Monday after learning that Emelianenko had signed with Strikeforce. “He turns down a huge deal and the opportunity to face the best in the world to fight nobodies for no money!" White also addressed fans: "I feel sorry for the real fight fans. I wanted to make the deal, but it takes two and it is very obvious Fedor doesn't want to fight the best, and doesn't give a sh-t about the fans!" I would still watch Fedor vs Overeem, or Fedor vs "Grimm" Rogers.