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Old 08-19-2009, 08:01 AM   #1
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First of all...the Zuk is bad ass.


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Nope, which I find kinda dirty by itself! I mean, in a way, I agree that this class has produced some crazy, tight races but at what cost? The I4 guys are almost literally killing themselves to try and keep up on the faster, more flowing tracks. That dumb ass Cardenas could have had this championship wrapped up by now!!!

I almost choke laughing every time they mention how crappy the Buell's brakes are (no offense). If they could get away with it, they'd be gone I bet! I'm not even sure if they still are running all the fuel in the frame (I didn't think there was enough capacity). I'm pretty sure that they've given up on the oil in the swing arm. The belt drive was the first thing to go... Is this thing still a Buell? It seems that all the things that make it a superb street bike (by all accounts) make it a horrible race bike...

I'm not sure you understand why the 1125's dont use oil in the swingarm. The oil tank is intergrated into the crankcase like Japanese and other bikes. The XB's, as you all love to point out, uses a derivitive of a Harley engine. They have a need for a seperate oil tank. There was no reason to put the oil in the swing arm on the 1125.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:48 AM   #2
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The swingarm conspiracy is this. They claim they need a different swing arm to convert to chain drive so they can be geared right for all the tracks BUT, when they bolt on the new swingarm they dont metion the extra 2 inches of extension to give them chain adjustability. The extra 2 gives them the option of lengthening the wheelbase for more stability and added traction at sometracks
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:49 AM   #3
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The ZTL brake conspiracy is this, Great powerful setup that lacks feel at that last aforementioned 5 pct, so they are allowed the different master cylinder and thicker rotor...
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:28 PM   #4
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First of all...the Zuk is bad ass.





I'm not sure you understand why the 1125's dont use oil in the swingarm. The oil tank is intergrated into the crankcase like Japanese and other bikes. The XB's, as you all love to point out, uses a derivitive of a Harley engine. They have a need for a seperate oil tank. There was no reason to put the oil in the swing arm on the 1125.
Oh you're right Marko! I'm also mixing last year's "cheater' Buells with this years. They tried to campaign aircooled 1200s in the Formula Extreme class (600s) and didn't do very well. Anyway, I'm actually sorry, I didn't wish to descend into "Buell bashing" territory. As I've said before, it's not that I'm against Buell. I just want them to compete on equal terms and have an American racing effort that I can be proud of! If Eslick wins the Daytona Sportbike championship, I'm not gonna be proud or impressed.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:31 PM   #5
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Oh you're right Marko! I'm also mixing last year's "cheater' Buells with this years. They tried to campaign aircooled 1200s in the Formula Extreme class (600s) and didn't do very well. Anyway, I'm actually sorry, I didn't wish to descend into "Buell bashing" territory. As I've said before, it's not that I'm against Buell. I just want them to compete on equal terms and have an American racing effort that I can be proud of! If Eslick wins the Daytona Sportbike championship, I'm not gonna be proud or impressed.
Listen, I'm just saying there was a reason the oil was and is no longer in the swingarm. Thats all. Also, the fuel "tank" also holds 5.3 gallons. How much more do they need and how much do jap bikes hold? Near 5 gallons, right?
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:37 PM   #6
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Listen, I'm just saying there was a reason the oil was and is no longer in the swingarm. Thats all. Also, the fuel "tank" also holds 5.3 gallons. How much more do they need and how much do jap bikes hold? Near 5 gallons, right?
Yea like I said, I'm mixing the two efforts. Last year, Buell "had" to use a different frame (normally against the rules) to get a higher fuel capacity. Anyway, I really hadn't meant to go into Buell bashing territory with this thread. Sorry.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:43 PM   #7
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My ZX has 4.2 gallons. I am willing to bet that the 600s get better mileage under race conditions but I have not seen anyone run out this year in DSB. Even with the pace laps behind whomever?
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Old 08-20-2009, 06:37 AM   #8
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