25 years of sportbike development

Amber Lamps · 08-22-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

i'll hold out for a highway star

forkless hub steering, all ceramic twin turbo 1500cc producing 700+ horsepower. sign me up.

Nope maximum sweetness!!!

Haha!

smileyman · 08-22-2009, 10:23 AM

I pondered this alot while mowing last night. I do not think we have seen the end of the curve but I feel its coming. Big HP for the existing liters will have to come either from new tech' like D.I. 2 strokes, valve actuation, or metallurgy. Otherwise durability will suffer. You may have to replace valves rather than have tham adjusted at 25K?
The only other way to get there is adding CCs ala the new V Max. GSXR 1800 anyone?

derf · 08-22-2009, 10:44 AM

How about a 378hp 2.8l V8 Busa engine?

This is basically 2 I4 Busa engines that share a crank and bottom end.

tached1000rr · 08-22-2009, 10:49 AM

There comes a point where trick parts and/or more rpm becomes too unreliable, too costly and maintenance intensive. For an OEM type deal adding cubic inches, oops I mean more CCs is the way to go for a long OEM type life on the street while keeping maintenance requirements on par with todays bikes and what most owners would find acceptable.

Amber Lamps · 08-22-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smileyman

I pondered this alot while mowing last night. I do not think we have seen the end of the curve but I feel its coming. Big HP for the existing liters will have to come either from new tech' like D.I. 2 strokes, valve actuation, or metallurgy. Otherwise durability will suffer. You may have to replace valves rather than have tham adjusted at 25K?
The only other way to get there is adding CCs ala the new V Max. GSXR 1800 anyone?

Hmmm... I don't know. I still stand behind my original statement that Suzuki could produce a 200hp GSXR1000 if they wanted to. Today. I also believe that it would be reliable. I point to 10 years of Suzuki dominance in Superstock racing around the world. I do believe that we are losing our spot lately.... I also believe that we have had no small success in Endurance racing as well. I honestly don't believe that it's that "hard" to make the bike and have it be reliable. I believe that there are other considerations at work here, i.e. legal, environmental, image, tires, safety, etc. Shit, there are many groups right now who believe that the current bikes have way too much power and want to legislate a maximum performance limit.

Mr Lefty · 08-22-2009, 02:28 PM

not to mention if they blow their load on hp right now... it'll get harder to improve on... so they pace themselves... and give us little gains to keep us happy and away from other manufactures...

Dave · 08-22-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Nope maximum sweetness!!!

Haha!

step through = scooter bro

Amber Lamps · 08-22-2009, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave

step through = scooter bro

Semantics... I'd rock a 200 mph scooter!

08-22-2009, 10:23 AM	#2
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I pondered this alot while mowing last night. I do not think we have seen the end of the curve but I feel its coming. Big HP for the existing liters will have to come either from new tech' like D.I. 2 strokes, valve actuation, or metallurgy. Otherwise durability will suffer. You may have to replace valves rather than have tham adjusted at 25K? The only other way to get there is adding CCs ala the new V Max. GSXR 1800 anyone? __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

08-22-2009, 10:44 AM	#3
derf token jewboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man Posts: 10,799	How about a 378hp 2.8l V8 Busa engine? This is basically 2 I4 Busa engines that share a crank and bottom end. __________________

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

08-22-2009, 10:49 AM	#4
tached1000rr WERA White Plate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NC Moto: 2009 GSXR 1300 Posts: 2,448	There comes a point where trick parts and/or more rpm becomes too unreliable, too costly and maintenance intensive. For an OEM type deal adding cubic inches, oops I mean more CCs is the way to go for a long OEM type life on the street while keeping maintenance requirements on par with todays bikes and what most owners would find acceptable.

08-22-2009, 02:28 PM	#6
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	not to mention if they blow their load on hp right now... it'll get harder to improve on... so they pace themselves... and give us little gains to keep us happy and away from other manufactures...