Reasons we ride liter bikes-add yours or ones you've heard

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Originally Posted by Mikey

101, I thought you were an engineer. How do you keep failing at basic physics concepts?

I don't know, I barely finished High School and I know that "gyroscopic effect" involves things that spin and not things that go up and down.... besides, if we really want to get into it, let's talk about materials, manufacturing techniques, etc. Potentially, my GSXR1000 may have lighter pistons, rods, etc than some 600s which would negate the premise that it would require a heavier crank. Not to mention the fact that the engine turns slower and the entire bike could possibly weigh the same or even less than a 600... Oh and what's this about the engine having to be "wider"? Displacement is determined by cylindrical volume which is calculated using cylinder radius and height. Who's to say that the 1000 motor isn't slightly taller? Okay, I'll increase my cylinder bores by 1mm in width and 7mm in height (approx) what's wrong with that? Maybe, I'll invent some cool new ceramic coating to put on my cylinders which will allow me to make the sleeves thinner without compromising engine durability....

Basically, it's a bullshit statement to say that an 1000 can't enter a corner just as fast as a 600 in every case... I guarantee that my 1000 can enter a corner just as fast or faster than oh a CBR600F2 with the same rider on both... I guess I need to go to engineering school to be able to figure this out.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh and what's this about the engine having to be "wider"? Displacement is determined by cylindrical volume which is calculated using cylinder radius and height. Who's to say that the 1000 motor isn't slightly taller? Okay, I'll increase my cylinder bores by 1mm in width and 7mm in height (approx) what's wrong with that? :

Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Basically, it's a bullshit statement to say that an 1000 can't enter a corner just as fast as a 600 in every case... I guarantee that my 1000 can enter a corner just as fast or faster than oh a CBR600F2 with the same rider on both... :

Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Anytime you increase the stroke, the crank would need longer throws, which means it would need bigger counterwieghts as well


Now let's see what happens if it's a modern-day 600, not a 15-yr old one

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

What will happen? Why can't a 1000 enter a corner as fast as a 600? I really don't get it...

Are you being very technical about the "enter" phrase? If so then technically the Hyabusa could enter a corner faster than any stock bike out there. Not saying the outcome would be good.

I'm no expert by any means but I'd guess if you put Rossi on a GSXR600 and a GSXR1000 (Of the same year) and he was up at Deal's Gap (and supposing fear of crashing was about the same as a track). I feel that he'd be faster on the GSXR600 since I believe they have a shorter wheelbase, lighter weight, etc.

But I'm also sure that Rossi and a handful of people in the world would be able to exploit those differences.