Oil, OEM or use an aftermarket brand?

Quick281 · 04-09-2008, 04:31 AM

Just ordered 3 quarts of the 10w 40 Repsol Sinthetic, with a K&N filter out of convenience as well as 2 1/2 gallon containers of the Engine Ice stuff.

Woot woot

WARputer · 04-09-2008, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281

Just ordered 3 quarts of the 10w 40 Repsol Sinthetic, with a K&N filter out of convenience as well as 2 1/2 gallon containers of the Engine Ice stuff.

Woot woot

Another satisfied customer !

marko138 · 04-09-2008, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quick281

Just ordered 3 quarts of the 10w 40 Repsol Sinthetic, with a K&N filter out of convenience as well as 2 1/2 gallon containers of the Engine Ice stuff.

Woot woot

Good move. Full synth or blend? And...yes, stick to what your manual says.

Cutty72 · 04-09-2008, 10:54 AM

Did the first change on the Buell last night. 200 miles, didn't want to wait till 600 with a brand new engine.
There was a LOT of metal filings on that magnet! Glad I dropped the oil.

Anyway, that calls for 20-50... that shit is thick....
Still running standard dino oil till it gets all broke in.

PhiSig1071 · 04-09-2008, 11:10 AM

OK, the Cal Tech Mechanical Engineering department did a filter test about a year ago, they said that the PureOne filter is actually the best, after that K&N is slightly better than OEM, and OEM is better than most of the off brands. Unfortunately for you (and me) suzuki threads are propitery and they don't make the PureOne for Suzuki's. I use K&N, and change my oil and filter after every trackday.

As for Oil, I use Mobil 1 in the KTM, and Castrol R4 Superbike in the GSXR. Here's the thing about car oil, you CAN use it in a motorcycle, as long as it is a low-detergent type of oil with no "friction modifiers". They detergents and "friction modifiers" will bind with the clutch plates and cause slippage and eventual wear. The "friction modifier" is usually molybendium. Check the back of the jug and see what additives are in the oil. If you want to use car oil I recommend Rotella T Synthetic, my father has about 30k miles on two different bikes with Rotella T Syn with no problems at all. (He uses K&N filters too)

Cutty72 · 04-09-2008, 11:18 AM

I have a question for those that have had bikes longer.

Reading through the Buell owners manual, and my SV's Service manual, they both say you only need to change the filter every other (buell) or every third (SV) oil change.
If you are changing the fluid, why would you not want to change what is keeping that fluid clean??

Personally, until I hear a good reason to NOT change it, I'll change with the oil... a few extra bucks for a filter isn't gonna kill me.

azoomm · 04-09-2008, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72

I have a question for those that have had bikes longer.

Reading through the Buell owners manual, and my SV's Service manual, they both say you only need to change the filter every other (buell) or every third (SV) oil change.
If you are changing the fluid, why would you not want to change what is keeping that fluid clean??

Personally, until I hear a good reason to NOT change it, I'll change with the oil... a few extra bucks for a filter isn't gonna kill me.

I change the filter every time. The small amount of money is WORTH clean oil.

PhiSig1071 · 04-09-2008, 12:02 PM

I replace my filter every time I change my oil. For a couple reasons, one, when an oil filter becomes clogged and can no longer filter effectively then there is a by-pass valve that allows oil to flow through the filter body without ever going through the filter materiel. Also, a filter holds something close to .5L of oil. In the case of not changing the filter you are leaving up to .5L of dirty oil to mix with your clean oil. Hell, I usually have a little extra oil (about a L) that I pour through the bike to flush out all of the dirty oil. I'm quite anal retentive when it comes to bike maintainence.

WARputer · 04-09-2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cutty72

I have a question for those that have had bikes longer.

Reading through the Buell owners manual, and my SV's Service manual, they both say you only need to change the filter every other (buell) or every third (SV) oil change.
If you are changing the fluid, why would you not want to change what is keeping that fluid clean??

Personally, until I hear a good reason to NOT change it, I'll change with the oil... a few extra bucks for a filter isn't gonna kill me.

Yep ...my owners manual & service manual say the same thing .....but that's just crazy ....I change the filter every time.

Cutty72 · 04-09-2008, 02:02 PM

That's what I was thinking... just makes no sense not to.

04-09-2008, 04:31 AM	#1
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04-09-2008, 11:10 AM	#5
PhiSig1071 Let go of my ears. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Moto: '03 GSX-R600, '04 625SMC Posts: 1,394	OK, the Cal Tech Mechanical Engineering department did a filter test about a year ago, they said that the PureOne filter is actually the best, after that K&N is slightly better than OEM, and OEM is better than most of the off brands. Unfortunately for you (and me) suzuki threads are propitery and they don't make the PureOne for Suzuki's. I use K&N, and change my oil and filter after every trackday. As for Oil, I use Mobil 1 in the KTM, and Castrol R4 Superbike in the GSXR. Here's the thing about car oil, you CAN use it in a motorcycle, as long as it is a low-detergent type of oil with no "friction modifiers". They detergents and "friction modifiers" will bind with the clutch plates and cause slippage and eventual wear. The "friction modifier" is usually molybendium. Check the back of the jug and see what additives are in the oil. If you want to use car oil I recommend Rotella T Synthetic, my father has about 30k miles on two different bikes with Rotella T Syn with no problems at all. (He uses K&N filters too)

04-09-2008, 12:02 PM	#8
PhiSig1071 Let go of my ears. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Moto: '03 GSX-R600, '04 625SMC Posts: 1,394	I replace my filter every time I change my oil. For a couple reasons, one, when an oil filter becomes clogged and can no longer filter effectively then there is a by-pass valve that allows oil to flow through the filter body without ever going through the filter materiel. Also, a filter holds something close to .5L of oil. In the case of not changing the filter you are leaving up to .5L of dirty oil to mix with your clean oil. Hell, I usually have a little extra oil (about a L) that I pour through the bike to flush out all of the dirty oil. I'm quite anal retentive when it comes to bike maintainence.