new VFR must really suck.

[Rangerscott]

A professional can tell me all day what I need, but that doesnt mean I'm going to like/enjoy/want it.

[marko138]

Originally Posted by tommymac

kawi made some nice upgrades this year too, I realy liked the fjr more but kawis doing all the right stuff.

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by marko138

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

and kawi still wont get any respect for it

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Dave

and kawi still wont get any respect for it

Maybe. It's certainly not the kind of bike I'm looking for, but I can respect the fact that they took consumers wants in to mind.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by marko138

Yeah, I just read the article in the latest SR about the updated Connie. How about a company actually listened to what the consumers wanted.

I skimmed through that article, but plan to read it next time I am in my office at home

I think yamaha did similar things with the fjr, I know heat was an issue with the older generations and they adressed that, I guess the ST market is that competitive that they listen to wha tthey have to say.


As for the magazine reviews I usualy take them with a grain of salt, you dont know what sort of bias they have for or against a bike. Plus it seems like all of them now jsut flog the bikes at a race track and post their times.

[Kerry_129]

I'll withhold final judgement until seeing & riding one in person - but I'm definitely disappointed that it seems to have gone SO much further away from the original VFR's roots.

I 'spect I'll stick with my rebuilt & franken-viffered 5th-gen, and look at an FJR or Connie, or even a 'Busa whenever I add a big sport-touring bike to the stable.

[Phenix_Rider]

Sitting on the '09 and the '10 VFR yesterday, the '09 is more comfortable and lighter, and looks better.

[Scot]

I've had 3 VFRs. A 3rd, 4th and a 5th gen. To me, the 5th gen was possibly the best do all bike I've ever owned. I rode the 6th gen for 4-5 months while bike sitting for a friend who was out west. I didn't like it. The Vtec is annoying. I bet it's the single reason people put exhausts on that bike.

Honda makes the bikes it wants to make...and it makes 1000s more than it can sell. That's why you could buy a brand new 2003 Superhawk in 2007.

To me, Yamaha has been the class leader since 1998. The R1 changed the game. The R6 solidified the win. Honda took 4 years to come out with the 600RR and it wasn't even close.

Kawi and Suz make great bikes but in the grand scheme, can't compete with the other two from a company standpoint.

[t-homo]

Originally Posted by Scot

To me, Yamaha has been the class leader since 1998. The R1 changed the game. The R6 solidified the win. Honda took 4 years to come out with the 600RR and it wasn't even close.

Kawi and Suz make great bikes but in the grand scheme, can't compete with the other two from a company standpoint.

My 2000 R1 is a testament to that. Over 50,000 miles. Did everything from a track day to drag strip a few different nights to an iron butt last summer and never missed a beat. I plan on giving it as much or more abuse this summer.