Does everyone know how to ride this?

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

Alrighty then. If most TWF members lived in a straight line between Western Kentucky and the Rocky Mountains, that would've been relevant.

And thanks to this thread, they will. Without a doubt.

Hey, where would we be without a "Hey look at me, I live in the mountains and ride cool roads like this one, because I'm an expert trail braker, and If you ever want to try it, you better ask me how first, cause I'm all awesome and shit" thread?

JC

[OneSickPsycho]

I thought this thread was helpful. I guess useful content is over-rated on this site...

Quick, someone bash another member or argue about politics, we are getting dangerously close to having useful information on this site!

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I thought this thread was helpful. I guess useful content is over-rated on this site...

That's because there aren't any curves where you live.

JC

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

That's because there aren't any curves where you live.

JC

No, it's because I was once a noob who didn't know about all this shit and threads like this helped me not only become a better rider, but more importantly a safer rider.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Hey, where would we be without a "Hey look at me, I live in the mountains and ride cool roads like this one, because I'm an expert trail braker, and If you ever want to try it, you better ask me how first, cause I'm all awesome and shit" thread?

JC

I don't know where I'd be, but apparently OSP would be on the wrong side of a cliff somewhere.

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

No, it's because I was once a noob who didn't know about all this shit and threads like this helped me not only become a better rider, but more importantly a safer rider.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

No, it's because I was once a noob who didn't know about all this shit and threads like this helped me not only become a better rider, but more importantly a safer rider.

Ok, fair enough, let's talk safety.

You can, in my opinion, ride for your entire life, on any road in the world, without trail braking.

How? Simple. Slow the fuck down. The world is not a racetrack. Treating it like one, exponentially increases your odds of becoming a leather clad graffiti stain on some unforgiving canyon wall.

I ride at **ahem** a fairly "spirited pace", but I'm usually off the brakes, way before the apex. Maybe it's because I got the whole racing thing out of my system years ago, (almost, anyway...) or maybe it's because I've seen too many dead guys laying under sheets. Probably both.

So, trail braking? Good thing to know how to do. It will make you faster. Will it make you safer? I don't think so.

JC

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Ok, fair enough, let's talk safety.

You can, in my opinion, ride for your entire life, on any road in the world, without trail braking.

How? Simple. Slow the fuck down. The world is not a racetrack. Treating it like one, exponentially increases your odds of becoming a leather clad graffiti stain on some unforgiving canyon wall.

I ride at **ahem** a fairly "spirited pace", but I'm usually off the brakes, way before the apex. Maybe it's because I got the whole racing thing out of my system years ago, (almost, anyway...) or maybe it's because I've seen too many dead guys laying under sheets. Probably both.

So, trail braking? Good thing to know how to do. It will make you faster. Will it make you safer? I don't think so.

JC

I'm inclined to agree with you and if that was that would have been the original line of thought coming out of this thread then I'd have nothing to say. The fact is that the guy posted useful information about motorcycles on a motorcycle site. Fuck me I think this was the first time I've even seen you post about riding... until this point I wasn't even sure you had a bike.

I don't mind some ribbing and I certainly don't think this should be a 'strictly motorcycle content' sort of site but if someone wants to talk bikes, riding, or something related to the core purpose of this site let them. If you disagree then disagree but don't click on every thread with the intent on taking a shit all over it. Its really fucking annoying and pathetic.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I'm inclined to agree with you and if that was that would have been the original line of thought coming out of this thread then I'd have nothing to say. The fact is that the guy posted useful information about motorcycles on a motorcycle site. Fuck me I think this was the first time I've even seen you post about riding... until this point I wasn't even sure you had a bike.

I don't mind some ribbing and I certainly don't think this should be a 'strictly motorcycle content' sort of site but if someone wants to talk bikes, riding, or something related to the core purpose of this site let them. If you disagree then disagree but don't click on every thread with the intent on taking a shit all over it. Its really fucking annoying and pathetic.

Fuck dude, it ain't like I shot the guy's cat.

If we were sitting around a table at a bar, my reaction to the thread title, and the overall tone of the post would have been the same. A ribbing would ensue.

I've been riding for 33 years. Funny thing is, I started riding in Colorado, and I've probably been on Lookout Mountain. I can't say for sure, because they all look the same to me, and it was 33 fucking years ago. I don't even remember the names of all the streets I've lived on, let alone all the goddamn mountains I went up and down.

But you're right, I don't talk much about riding on the site. I don't feel the need to. Ask me a question, and I'll give you my opinion, but that's as far as it goes.

You're reading way to much into this, take a pill. Hell, take two, they're small.

JC

[Thumper996]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

So, trail braking? Good thing to know how to do. It will make you faster. Will it make you safer? I don't think so.

JC

That is a bunch of BS, if you never practice braking late into a turn then you will never have that skill when needed in an emergency.

Example, you enter the turn at your non-braking speed, but out of no where car, animal, or debris is in the road causes you to have to get that sucker stopped under control whole redirecting the bike.

If you don't learn to do this under normal riding conditions you are most likely going to crash when you actually need to trail brake and redirect the bike at the same time.


Trail braking is all about hard entry into a turn while under hard braking. You either can or cannot do this.

So flame me if you want, but i will continue to trail brake into almost every turn.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Thumper996

That is a bunch of BS, if you never practice braking late into a turn then you will never have that skill when needed in an emergency.

Example, you enter the turn at your non-braking speed, but out of no where car, animal, or debris is in the road causes you to have to get that sucker stopped under control whole redirecting the bike.

That's all fine and good, but I think you need to reexamine the conventional definition of trail braking, (which, btw, NW did a pretty good job of). If you aren't on the brakes when you enter a turn, you're not trail braking. The situation you're describing, is emergency braking. Not the same thing, and not the same purpose.

Originally Posted by Thumper996

Trail braking is all about hard entry into a turn while under hard braking.

Where have I heard that before? Oh yeah, now I remember....

Originally Posted by Thumper996

So flame me if you want, but i will continue to trail brake into almost every turn.

Knock yourself out.

JC