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Old 02-14-2010, 12:13 PM   #1
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Multiplied by the 5 bikes I have, that's about 600 clams to drop on oil filters, that I have to clean.

I've been running HIFLOWFILTRO's on all my bikes for about the last ten years. They're TUV approved.

TUV, is the German testing agency for all things automotive. Basically, if you want to run any aftermarket part in Germany, it has to be TUV approved. Getting a TUV approval, is notoriously difficult. You have to jump through some major hoops. The K&N filters for bikes, are actually made by HIFLOW.

As far as the math goes, what's your time worth? I'd have to guess you're looking at an hour or so, to get the stainless filter 100% clean?

For my applications, an $8.00, 10 micron filter that I don't have to fuck with, beats a $125.00, 30 micron filter hands down.

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I'm kinda with you on this... I'm lazy and would probably "forget" to clean the damn thing...

I fully understand the arguments presented here but;

1. I change my oil frequently and doubt that it gets dirty enough to cause the problems presented.

2. I'm not convinced that a few small pieces of paper are a serious threat to my engine.

3. Millions of engines run billions of miles on "paper filters" without problems. This sounds like a lot of hype and fear tactics to sell $100+ filters.

4. One of my biggest fears is that the aluminum threads decide to get stuck on the steel mount...ever have a stuck oil filter? I wonder if it is harder to remove with the engine hot.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:00 PM   #2
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I'm kinda with you on this... I'm lazy and would probably "forget" to clean the damn thing...

I fully understand the arguments presented here but;

1. I change my oil frequently and doubt that it gets dirty enough to cause the problems presented.

2. I'm not convinced that a few small pieces of paper are a serious threat to my engine.

3. Millions of engines run billions of miles on "paper filters" without problems. This sounds like a lot of hype and fear tactics to sell $100+ filters.

4. One of my biggest fears is that the aluminum threads decide to get stuck on the steel mount...ever have a stuck oil filter? I wonder if it is harder to remove with the engine hot.
I totally agree with you on this post.

3. if its good enough for the masses then its good enough for me, paper filters have done me fine up to this point, not gonna change now.

4. If I ever have a regular oil filter that is too stuck to remove with a filter wrench, I just stab it with a screw driver and twist off like that.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:25 PM   #3
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I totally agree with you on this post.

3. if its good enough for the masses then its good enough for me, paper filters have done me fine up to this point, not gonna change now.

4. If I ever have a regular oil filter that is too stuck to remove with a filter wrench, I just stab it with a screw driver and twist off like that.
Exactly my point, what do you do with this $100 aluminum filter?
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:33 PM   #4
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Exactly my point, what do you do with this $100 aluminum filter?
Ahhh, and that is the question that begs to be asked....

My oil filter is shineier than your oil filter!
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Old 02-14-2010, 05:52 PM   #5
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Exactly my point, what do you do with this $100 aluminum filter?
Use a bigger screwdriver
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Old 02-14-2010, 06:36 PM   #6
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Use a bigger screwdriver
Nah, big pliers. Would a dab of grease on the threads hurt?
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Old 02-14-2010, 06:40 PM   #7
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Nah, big pliers. Would a dab of grease on the threads hurt?
when I install the screw on filters I always put a light film of oil around the gasket, even on the priller I put some on the cover for the filter.
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when I install the screw on filters I always put a light film of oil around the gasket, even on the priller I put some on the cover for the filter.
Ok, school me on this, I have been doinbg that since I was shown how to do an oil change, but I thought it had more to do with not damaging the gasket rather than spinning it on and off
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Exactly my point, what do you do with this $100 aluminum filter?
It comes with one of those filter wrench attachment things that fit over the top of the filter and connects to a ratchet.
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It comes with one of those filter wrench attachment things that fit over the top of the filter and connects to a ratchet.
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