Dude got what he deserved

z06boy · 02-25-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

I don't agree with that Z06. There are situations where it should be perfectly acceptable to throw the first punch without being at fault.

Verbal threats are one. "Hey buddy, I'm gonna kick 'yer ass" *BAM!* Just depends on the situation.

Someone grabs your wife's ass. *KERPLOW!*

A dude pushes your kid down on purpose *BANG!*

And so on. We've got to stop viewing violence with a no-tolerance outlook.

Well we aren't really in disagreement...except maybe in your first example. If you threw the first punch then yes you made it physical and I've been guilty of that myself. Yes it does depend on the exact situation though.

In your other examples...they touched your wife and they pushed your kid...that made it physical...not you for cold cocking them.

Kaneman · 02-25-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

Well we aren't really in disagreement...except maybe in your first example. If you threw the first punch then yes you made it physical and I've been guilty of that myself. Yes it does depend on the exact situation though.

In your other examples...they touched your wife and they pushed your kid...that made it physical...not you for cold cocking them.

The first one is in response to a verbal threat depending on the situation. You can look at someone and know if they're serious most of the time. If someone TELLS you that they're about to try to physically harm you and you know they mean it, then you'd be an idiot to wait. A simple threat assessment will dictate your response.

"Fightins commenced Ike, get to fightin' or get out"

Punches are harder to dodge than you might think, always better to get the first one in if the situation warrants it.

z06boy · 02-25-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

The first one is in response to a verbal threat depending on the situation. You can look at someone and know if they're serious most of the time. If someone TELLS you that they're about to try to physically harm you and you know they mean it, then you'd be an idiot to wait. A simple threat assessment will dictate your response.

"Fightins commenced Ike, get to fightin' or get out"

Punches are harder to dodge than you might think, always better to get the first one in if the situation warrants it.

I agreed that it depended on the situation...right ?

I also said I've thrown the first punch...more than once but I also said that it was ME that actually made it physical.

If I think for a second that you're about to come at me...I guarantee I'm not gonna just stand there...been there and done that and most likely will again.

Again...it DOES depend on the situation.

Oh yeah...punches are not harder to dodge than I might think...I've been hit more than once.

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh for sure I too have witnessed their propensity to gang up on individuals and have actually been the victim of black gang violence in the past. It is a disgusting trait which I have zero tolerance for. In my defense I can say that I have never gathered my homies together to attack a single person but have always handled my battles on an individual basis.

Kaneman · 02-25-2010, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

I agreed that it depended on the situation...right ?

I also said I've thrown the first punch...more than once but I also said that it was ME that actually made it physical.

What I was disagreeing with was the notion that you were at fault for throwing the first punch.

z06boy · 02-25-2010, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

What I was disagreeing with was the notion that you were at fault for throwing the first punch.

In some situations you are and some you're not. The black guy on the bus was at fault for escalating it to a physical level imho and this is where it all started.

Talking in person is better than beating on this keyboard...things don't always come across the way one means them.

I don't really think we're on opposite sides with this...again it just depends on the situation.

Kaneman · 02-25-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by z06boy

In some situations you are and some you're not. The black guy on the bus was at fault for escalating it to a physical level imho and this is where it all started.

Talking in person is better than beating on this keyboard...things don't always come across the way one means them.

I don't really think we on opposite sides with this...again it just depends on the situation.

Right on, totally agree. I have to admit, I forgot we were even still talking about Beard Man,

Or as New Tigger would say, "Thank you sir, your post has enlightened my way of thinking and made me a better person. If it weren't for your continued efforts to educate me I would be lost in a vastness of ineptitude and ignorance. I owe so much to you and the people of this forum who work so hard to provide a medium where we can all truly grow together.

One World. One Motorcycle. GSX-R."

pauldun170 · 02-25-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

Right on, totally agree. I have to admit, I forgot we were even still talking about Beard Man,

Or as New Tigger would say, "Thank you sir, your post has enlightened my way of thinking and made me a better person. If it weren't for your continued efforts to educate me I would be lost in a vastness of ineptitude and ignorance. I owe so much to you and the people of this forum who work so hard to provide a medium where we can all truly grow together.

One World. One Motorcycle. GSX-R."

lol

Holy crap...