oh noez!!! cheby cobalt FAIL.........

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Once again I repeat my earlier post...What do you buy? Who do you trust?? Is any OEM recall proof? Is it now a question of how they perform their recalls and stand behind their product?

Yeah no kidding. I just buy what I want and trust for my $$. He11 I just bought a brand new vehicle two weeks ago and if I went just by ratings I would have never bought it...it's one of the worst evidently.

I bought a 2010 Jeep Liberty 4x4. My 99 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 that I traded in had 152k miles and I loved the thing but I would have never bought it if I just went by a few published ratings.

I didn't care for the 03'-07' Liberty's that replaced teh old Cherokee Classic...too much like a chic vehicle imho but I like the redesigned Liberty.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by z06boy

Yeah no kidding. I just buy what I want and trust for my $$. He11 I just bought a brand new vehicle two weeks ago and if I went just by ratings I would have never bought it...it's one of the worst evidently.

I bought a 2010 Jeep Liberty 4x4. My 99 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 that I traded in had 152k miles and I loved the thing but I would have never bought it if I just went by a few published ratings.

I didn't care for the 03'-07' Liberty's that replaced teh old Cherokee Classic...too much like a chic vehicle imho but I like the redesigned Liberty.

The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..

[z06boy]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..

I agree with "most" of what you say here. I do like the new Liberty better though.


Oh and as far as your last sentence ...Avatard.

*Disclaimer* If that was directed at the 03' - 07' Liberty then please disregard but if directed at me...here's another...

[Dave]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..

when you say gc you mean the new ones right? My old zj is a pretty decent offroader, not as good as my ramcharger was but hell, what is?

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Dave

when you say gc you mean the new ones right? My old xj is a pretty decent offroader, not as good as my ramcharger was but hell, what is?

Grand Cherokee meaning the 2005+ version

[Dave]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Grand Cherokee meaning the 2005+ version

gotcha, my folks have one of those. I dont think they've tried offroading it yet