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Old 04-06-2010, 03:33 PM   #1
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If they didn't sell as many Mustangs, they wouldn't have to sell as many Focuses. Chicken and egg
How would you propose to sell less Mustangs? Perhaps by building fewer and selling them for a lot? That doesn't sound like greed, it sounds like good business.

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How are they being forced to make SUVs/crossovers?
I said it was the reason why they make so many. I didn't say they were forced to do so. It only makes sense to build large vehicles so they are classified as light trucks. As I already mentioned this is what Dodge did with the Magnum and it is also what Ford did with the Flex.
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How would you propose to sell less Mustangs? Perhaps by building fewer and selling them for a lot? That doesn't sound like greed, it sounds like good business.
You said the Mustang makes up for the losses they take on Focuses. How about building a small car people are willing to pay a good price for? Until America does that, it will always be caught in this trap.
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You said the Mustang makes up for the losses they take on Focuses. How about building a small car people are willing to pay a good price for? Until America does that, it will always be caught in this trap.
They do and are quite capable.
Until all the assholes start saying how "They would never pay that much for a Ford"

The Fiesta is on its way and if they use quality materials on the inside it should be a good seller....
Upcoming Focus looks really good.
Fusion is doing well.

Then you have the Taurus which is a great car for a good price, you can opt for a wannabe A8 in the SHO if you have the cash and need a big roomy car with balls.

Mustang has always done well and now with the 3.7 and the 5.0 what left is there to complain about? Independent rear suspension that most people won't notice is missing?

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The verdict isn't in yet on the new Focus and Fiesta. Haven't seen any road tests on them yet. As for the one that's still on dealer lots, it could be described as crap compared to the Civic or Mazda 3. All of America's small cars have always been that way. Proof of this is dictated by the fact that domestic small cars not only have a lower MSRP, but are also forced to give large cash-backs to convince anyone to buy. Also, how many Civics do you see at rental car lots? None, because Honda can sell as many as it wants to normal consumers.

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Old 04-06-2010, 04:37 PM   #5
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You said the Mustang makes up for the losses they take on Focuses. How about building a small car people are willing to pay a good price for? Until America does that, it will always be caught in this trap.
I would like domestic manufacturers to do so but for whatever reasons they can't or won't. Even if they could build such a car there is no guarantee Americans will be willing to pay "a good price" for them. Say Ford can build a car equal to a Civic in every way and sell it for the same price as a Civic. Honda still has a much better reputation among consumers than Ford and is more likely to get the majority of those dollars.

ETA: I just saw you used the Civic in your most recent reply. They are the standard and Ford would have to do better for the same price or less to have a hope at winning the consumer's dollars. I don't know if that is possible, and even if it is I don't know if Ford (or any of the "domestics") is capable.

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