2011 Big Four model changes?

[smileyman]

Tires. Liter bikes eat em! Middleweights dont eat them as bad.
Handing, liter bikes stop and shoot, cause all that crankshaft makes for hard turning and slow direction changes...
Power, if they made a 2000 I would want one!

[NONE_too_SOFT]

i think we're making mountains out of mole hills.

[derf]

Originally Posted by NONE_too_SOFT

i think we're making mountains out of mole hills.

I got the shovel.

Really though the newest batch of 1k's are they even any heavier than the 600s now? By what 30 lbs? 5 or 10 years ago yes the liter bikes were much more point and shoot bike, but they have grown so much on the last decade to the point where an 09-10 CBR1k or ZX10r really can handle like a 600.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by derf

I got the shovel.

Really though the newest batch of 1k's are they even any heavier than the 600s now? By what 30 lbs? 5 or 10 years ago yes the liter bikes were much more point and shoot bike, but they have grown so much on the last decade to the point where an 09-10 CBR1k or ZX10r really can handle like a 600.

from the sport rider page my bike was either the same weight as comparable year 600s and lighter than 750s and up. its only become more so with all the new emissions crap they are stuffing in there

[NONE_too_SOFT]

Originally Posted by derf

I got the shovel.

Really though the newest batch of 1k's are they even any heavier than the 600s now? By what 30 lbs? 5 or 10 years ago yes the liter bikes were much more point and shoot bike, but they have grown so much on the last decade to the point where an 09-10 CBR1k or ZX10r really can handle like a 600.

exactly my point. some of you guys want to make the liter bikes seem like they are just bothersome and terrible in turns, but its just not true. my 2003 600 weighs in at 370 dry, a 2006 1000rr comes in at 388 dry...

We're talking weight differences under thirty pounds for the most part. I weigh 160 lbs... i'd venture to guess a lot of the people arguing that a liter bike wont handle like a 600 are upwards to 200lbs. seems your 40lb love handles would affect the center of gravity much more on a 600 than my added engine weight would effect my riding on a 1000.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Tires. Liter bikes eat em! Middleweights dont eat them as bad.
Handing, liter bikes stop and shoot, cause all that crankshaft makes for hard turning and slow direction changes...
Power, if they made a 2000 I would want one!

dont work your wrist so much, they last longer and triumph makes a two litre

[smileyman]

Rocket III for serious tire carnage!

Liter bikes are point and shoout for many reasons:

Weight, usually 50 lbs heavier.
Crankshaft and reciprocating engine weight.
Engine power delivery on throttle take up and tire management.