Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > Riding > Track

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-2010, 08:29 AM   #1
OreoGaborio
Tony's Crack Pusher
 
OreoGaborio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Topsfield MA
Moto: 2003 Aprilia Tuono (street/track days), 2006 SV650 (race)
Posts: 428
Default

Tommay! Glad ya had fun and made some improvements, bro. Sorry I coudln't make it. Ken (Chief Instructor) asked me to come down for the event but it was too last minute for me to make arrangements.

Who were the instructors that you were working with? How'd they do?

To confirm a couple of questions I saw answered, yup, we only run the 2nd chicane only, as do most track day organizations, as well as the AMA. But we do use the 1st chicane for pit-out which makes things MUCH safer for everyone at the end of the front straight.

As for the llloonnnngggg right that decreases, then flips to the left (turns 8 and 9 on this map), for 8, I stay right of center until the turn tightens up. As I approach the decreasing radius I add just a touch of a turning input and trail brake all the way in. The reduction in speed along with a slightly increased lean angle brings me right over the apex.

I exit the corner, roll on the gas and give it a good squirt as I stand the bike up and aim STRAIGHT at the curbing on the left. As I reach the curbing I throw it in and stay relatively tight all the way through the turn, though I do let it drift out a little in the middle of the turn. I carry my lean angle through the whole turn with neutral throttle. I really delay my roll on so that I can tighten my line back up by the end to get a straighter shot into The Esses. I make sure to delay that roll on just a bit to get that straighter shot so I can really punch it outta there. Roll on too soon and I run it wide at the exit which makes for a much harder right turn to enter the Esses.


To get a better idea of what kind of lines we're taking, here's a video of when I raced there earlier this year. This vid was taken by a guy on a Duc 1000ss that I stalked for most of the race. There's a nice spark show that happens right in front of us at 6:30 in that near 100mph right hander in the back section and I make my pass on the Duc around the 7:50 mark.

YouTube- CCS at NJ Thunderbolt May 2,2010,Lightweight Superbike
__________________
-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187 ECK-Racing, Ironstone Ventures, Tony's Track Days, SV Racer
Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | RJ's Motorsport | Motorcycles of Manchester | MTAG-Pirelli

The Garage: '03 Tuono (Hooligan bike :naughty) | '06 SV650 (race)

Last edited by OreoGaborio; 07-02-2010 at 08:34 AM..
OreoGaborio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 09:01 AM   #2
tommymac
Moto GP Star
 
tommymac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,022
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
Tommay! Glad ya had fun and made some improvements, bro. Sorry I coudln't make it. Ken (Chief Instructor) asked me to come down for the event but it was too last minute for me to make arrangements.

Who were the instructors that you were working with? How'd they do?

To confirm a couple of questions I saw answered, yup, we only run the 2nd chicane only, as do most track day organizations, as well as the AMA. But we do use the 1st chicane for pit-out which makes things MUCH safer for everyone at the end of the front straight.

As for the llloonnnngggg right that decreases, then flips to the left (turns 8 and 9 on this map), for 8, I stay right of center until the turn tightens up. As I approach the decreasing radius I add just a touch of a turning input and trail brake all the way in. The reduction in speed along with a slightly increased lean angle brings me right over the apex.

I exit the corner, roll on the gas and give it a good squirt as I stand the bike up and aim STRAIGHT at the curbing on the left. As I reach the curbing I throw it in and stay relatively tight all the way through the turn, though I do let it drift out a little in the middle of the turn. I carry my lean angle through the whole turn with neutral throttle. I really delay my roll on so that I can tighten my line back up by the end to get a straighter shot into The Esses. I make sure to delay that roll on just a bit to get that straighter shot so I can really punch it outta there. Roll on too soon and I run it wide at the exit which makes for a much harder right turn to enter the Esses.


To get a better idea of what kind of lines we're taking, here's a video of when I raced there earlier this year. This vid was taken by a guy on a Duc 1000ss that I stalked for most of the race. There's a nice spark show that happens right in front of us at 6:30 in that near 100mph right hander in the back section and I make my pass on the Duc around the 7:50 mark.

YouTube- CCS at NJ Thunderbolt May 2,2010,Lightweight Superbike
I think our instructors name was paul, he rode a ktm motard. I didnt get the name of the CR who gave me a tow but he had prety much all white leathers on was prolly around 5-10 ish somewhat stocky build with blondish brown hair. I am going to look on the site for his name. They both did a great job, the clasrrom stuff realy made a lot of things fall together the last few sessions, and esp after my disaster of a first session. Plus they realy helped me break through my personal wall of realy parking it in some turns when I am by myself. I just started braking alittle less and later and was carrying much more corner speed and felt hey that wasnt bad and maybe next time I will go a little faster. Its funny that just those litlte things made so much of a difference, but I think the biggest part was just gaining more self confidence in my riding and that I CAN hit these turns faster.

I am figuring on doing a handful of days with tpm over the next month or 2 but want to twist a few arms to head back to loudon in the fall and if my conditioning is better make a run for advanced, figuring I am almost midpack now and have gained much more knowledge from our trackwalk.
tommymac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 10:01 AM   #3
Full Throttle
~Italian Stallion~
 
Full Throttle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North West Georgia
Moto: 2000 Yamaha YZF-R6
Posts: 446
Default

OreoGaborio-

Hey can i ask about how fast were you averaging in some of those curves?

Im a 70-80mph kind of rider in the twisties and im just wondering what speed you average hitting some of those turns like (1) (5) (6) (8). See my problem is im not trusting the road 100% when im in the mountains so im holding back some. There are far to many variables for me to let loose in that kind of environment. So im thinking if i get on the track ill be able to step up my game even more and really perform.

Also Tommy when i was reading this the other day i wasnt really paying attention i was really distracted by my 7 month old. I didnt realize it was you when i posted up and wrote "ask anyone at the rally." Sry haha my bad. Obviously you were there just slipped my mind when trying to take care of his little self.
__________________
Full Throttle is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:07 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.