Passing at the track

[CrazyKell]

Oreo made me think of a good point.

There is nothing more annoying than a bike that passes me in the straights only to park it in the corners. I know it's going to be a relaxed lap at that point....but it's just aggravating when they blow by you like Ricky Road Racer because they have a litre bike, only to absolutely park it in the corners. Grrr.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

The last point I'll make for now is that the one thing I see repeatedly with riders who are getting frustrated that they can't pass, is that they're riding ON the rear wheel of the bike in front of them..... GIVE THEM SPACE! This helps YOU relax a bit & maybe formulate a "game plan" and it also gives you a chance to build up some momentum coming out of a corner so that by the time you reach them you've already built up more speed than they have, making the pass a lot easier. If you're ON their rear tire coming out of a corner then it comes down to a drag race to the next corner that you may or may not win. Make the pass based on your skill as a rider, not your bike's capabilities.

It's interesting you say this, I was told I needed to be RIGHT THERE on the back tire and ready to pass the moment I got an opportunity. Food for thought.

Originally Posted by CrazyKell

Oreo made me think of a good point.

There is nothing more annoying than a bike that passes me in the straights only to park it in the corners. I know it's going to be a relaxed lap at that point....but it's just aggravating when they blow by you like Ricky Road Racer because they have a litre bike, only to absolutely park it in the corners. Grrr.

Thats standard fare at a track day sweetie, might as well get used to it and dont let it bother you. Thats why you pit to get away from those folks.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by the chi

It's interesting you say this, I was told I needed to be RIGHT THERE on the back tire and ready to pass the moment I got an opportunity. Food for thought.

Not always, sometimes that can make an ego driven rider ride harder making it even harder to complete a safe pass for a track day. Sometimes it's better to wait off the rider some and let him run wide or not accelerate as hard and take your opportunity when they aren't paying attention to you on their wheel.

This is where you got to take your mind off race mentality and get back to track day mentality. If you have to race wheel to wheel with a rider (if it isn't a buddy or CR) at a track day, it's probably better to pit and find another place on the track. It's hard for a lot of riders to do this because we all have our own egos as well.

[CrazyKell]

Originally Posted by the chi

Thats standard fare at a track day sweetie, might as well get used to it and dont let it bother you. Thats why you pit to get away from those folks.

Ya I'm getting better at it. I'm to the point now when they go blowing by me in the straights, I laugh and back right off to give them more room.

[smileyman]

This one time, at band camp, I mean a track day, there was this lady that was using all the track to get her R6 around. Outside/inside/outside and leaving no room. Balking me twice a session.

I outbraked her from the outside several times, nothing close mind you cause she was braking miles from the tighter corners.

But after dodging her all day I finally lined her up in a corner eaiting to a long straight. She left the usual 18-24 inches on the outside and I got a huge drive,blew by her with my tread on the last inch of asphalt. We couldnt have been an inch apart fairing to fairing, me traveling 15 to 20 mph faster, she left room outsidethe rest of the day..

[smileyman]

This one time, at band camp, I mean a track day, there was this lady that was using all the track to get her R6 around. Outside/inside/outside and leaving no room. Balking me twice a session.

I outbraked her from the outside several times, nothing close mind you cause she was braking miles from the tighter corners.

But after dodging her all day I finally lined her up in a corner leading to a long straight. She left the usual 18-24 inches on the outside and I got a huge drive,blew by her with my tread on the last inch of asphalt. We couldnt have been an inch apart fairing to fairing, me traveling 15 to 20 mph faster, she left room outsidethe rest of the day..

[Trip]

Originally Posted by smileyman

This one time, at band camp, I mean a track day, there was this lady that was using all the track to get her R6 around. Outside/inside/outside and leaving no room. Balking me twice a session.

I outbraked her from the outside several times, nothing close mind you cause she was braking miles from the tighter corners.

But after dodging her all day I finally lined her up in a corner leading to a long straight. She left the usual 18-24 inches on the outside and I got a huge drive,blew by her with my tread on the last inch of asphalt. We couldnt have been an inch apart fairing to fairing, me traveling 15 to 20 mph faster, she left room outsidethe rest of the day..

Originally Posted by smileyman

This one time, at band camp, I mean a track day, there was this lady that was using all the track to get her R6 around. Outside/inside/outside and leaving no room. Balking me twice a session.

I outbraked her from the outside several times, nothing close mind you cause she was braking miles from the tighter corners.

But after dodging her all day I finally lined her up in a corner leading to a long straight. She left the usual 18-24 inches on the outside and I got a huge drive,blew by her with my tread on the last inch of asphalt. We couldnt have been an inch apart fairing to fairing, me traveling 15 to 20 mph faster, she left room outsidethe rest of the day..

cocaine is a helluva drug.

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Trip

cocaine is a helluva drug.

Posting and editting from the Nokia. I honestly have no clue how that happened.

[OreoGaborio]

Originally Posted by the chi

It's interesting you say this, I was told I needed to be RIGHT THERE on the back tire and ready to pass the moment I got an opportunity. Food for thought.

Nah, definitely not. It's much harder to get on the gas stronger/earlier than somone if you're tucked in right behind them at the apex. Give yourself a "running start" by backing off a bit as you enter the corner, then carry more steam through and out.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by OreoGaborio

Nah, definitely not. It's much harder to get on the gas stronger/earlier than somone if you're tucked in right behind them at the apex. Give yourself a "running start" by backing off a bit as you enter the corner, then carry more steam through and out.

Unless you know you can intimidate them out of the way. lol It's not exactly safe, but you can scare some people out of the line by riding on their tire.