Time for a new SUV, what to get?

[Gas Man]

Oh yeah it's multi leveled. But the day we no longer produce anything for ourselves will be a sad day. We will be dependant on other countries for our survival and crutch of products. I blame the govt mostly. Expenses to build in other countries is cheaper than here, simply because we live better than most countries. That means wages cost more, and let's not even get into medical. Problem is the import taxing... it's not a level playing field. But I'm not trying to debate politics.

Listen... it's simple. I keep a chevy and a ford in my driveway. Why? I have family that work there. It keeps them in jobs and roof over their heads. How would I be able to face my family rolling up in a Honda or Toyota? I might as well take the spoon from them.

Now I'm not an idiot. If you are in shitville or other similar state with foreign brand factories and you have family that works for Toyota or Honda. I will not hold anything against them for purchasing what keeps them employeed. I have a buddy that works for Toyota/Lexas and drives one. I understand.

Further, I have friends that have foreign cars. You won't hear me knock a Honda car. They make good stuff and I think are above the other foreign cars. But you won't see me own one.

[Dnyce]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Oh yeah it's multi leveled. But the day we no longer produce anything for ourselves will be a sad day. We will be dependant on other countries for our survival and crutch of products. I blame the govt mostly. Expenses to build in other countries is cheaper than here, simply because we live better than most countries. That means wages cost more, and let's not even get into medical. Problem is the import taxing... it's not a level playing field. But I'm not trying to debate politics.

Listen... it's simple. I keep a chevy and a ford in my driveway. Why? I have family that work there. It keeps them in jobs and roof over their heads. How would I be able to face my family rolling up in a Honda or Toyota? I might as well take the spoon from them.

Now I'm not an idiot. If you are in shitville or other similar state with foreign brand factories and you have family that works for Toyota or Honda. I will not hold anything against them for purchasing what keeps them employeed. I have a buddy that works for Toyota/Lexas and drives one. I understand.

Further, I have friends that have foreign cars. You won't hear me knock a Honda car. They make good stuff and I think are above the other foreign cars. But you won't see me own one.

buying that kawi mustve tore u up, no wonder you went to a harley (with a nice chop detour)

lol- i get your mentality tho, makes sense. i shop with ppl i want to help whenever possible.

[Gas Man]

LOL... don't have family in HD. Besides I was young and stupid back then.

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Listen... it's simple. I keep a chevy and a ford in my driveway. Why? I have family that work there. It keeps them in jobs and roof over their heads. How would I be able to face my family rolling up in a Honda or Toyota? I might as well take the spoon from them.

Further, I have friends that have foreign cars. You won't hear me knock a Honda car. They make good stuff and I think are above the other foreign cars. But you won't see me own one.

got you beat, I have a chevy car, ford truck and a Jeep. LOL
no toyotas for me thanks. I agree about the Honda cars, they make some nice, I just can't make myself pay money for one.

[wildchild]

back to the original question. I have 130,000 trouble free miles on my '02 5.4 Ford. good maint goes a long way to keeping things going.
if it's a used anything you take a risk that the previous owner didn't do maint.
I do like the Chevy as well.
Stylewise I would lean towards the Chevy. Never really loved the expy although it's not bad by any means.
Only trick I would mention would be if trying out the older Ford, push the little button to switch the trans into tow mode. two wires in the column have a tend to strip and not operate. Not a big deal but you want to know about it. mine is out right now, have to pull the cover off and solder them up.
Ford's 4.6 is a completely useless motor. Don't buy one.
Chevy's small V8 actually felt pretty good and had decent towing.
Ergonomically I like Dodge but they don't seem to have anything with a good track record or towing cap. Although a boat you should be able to haul with any half ton. too many trans issues with dodges also.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by wildchild

got you beat, I have a chevy car, ford truck and a Jeep. LOL
no toyotas for me thanks. I agree about the Honda cars, they make some nice, I just can't make myself pay money for one.

Oh yeah I won't bad mouth a Honda anything. They make good shit! But I won't buy one of their cars. Although I think a SC2000 is drool worthy!

Originally Posted by wildchild

back to the original question. I have 130,000 trouble free miles on my '02 5.4 Ford. good maint goes a long way to keeping things going.
if it's a used anything you take a risk that the previous owner didn't do maint.
I do like the Chevy as well.
Stylewise I would lean towards the Chevy. Never really loved the expy although it's not bad by any means.
Only trick I would mention would be if trying out the older Ford, push the little button to switch the trans into tow mode. two wires in the column have a tend to strip and not operate. Not a big deal but you want to know about it. mine is out right now, have to pull the cover off and solder them up.
Ford's 4.6 is a completely useless motor. Don't buy one.
Chevy's small V8 actually felt pretty good and had decent towing.
Ergonomically I like Dodge but they don't seem to have anything with a good track record or towing cap. Although a boat you should be able to haul with any half ton. too many trans issues with dodges also.

This! My last F150 had the 5.4. Nice ass truck! Back seat was freakin huge!



And it did this duty so well I hardly knew it was all back there

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

This! My last F150 had the 5.4. Nice ass truck! Back seat was freakin huge!

The new ones are bigger yet.