This is sweet

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Riceaholic

Nice looking car but you lost me at 200hp....

Yeah, 200hp isn't a lot, but what are the torque numbers? Being a diesel, I'm inclined to think the torque should be plety to keep it competitive.

I'd like to see more diesels available in the US. I'd really like to have a turbodiesel, but I can't justify a 3/4 ton or larger truck to put it in. If I could get a clean turbodiesel in a sedan or smaller truck (something like a Ranger or even a half-ton) with a real manual transmission, I'd be stoked.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Mikey

Yeah, 200hp isn't a lot, but what are the torque numbers? Being a diesel, I'm inclined to think the torque should be plety to keep it competitive.

I'd like to see more diesels available in the US. I'd really like to have a turbodiesel, but I can't justify a 3/4 ton or larger truck to put it in. If I could get a clean turbodiesel in a sedan or smaller truck (something like a Ranger or even a half-ton) with a real manual transmission, I'd be stoked.

Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Dave

Jetta tdi, been here for years. YEARS

With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

With somewhat limited availability and jacked up price.

He didn't say anything about that :P

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Dave

He didn't say anything about that :P

I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Mikey

I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.

In that case yer looking at bmw, old mercedes, datsun maximas, and that horrendous oldsmobile

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Mikey

I should have. A huge premium for the diesel takes away a lot of the allure, as does limited availability and highly questionable reliability.

I also absolutely hate FWD. There is not a single FWD vehicle in my household. RWD or AWD FTW. That's also part of the allure of a small truck- trucks put their power to the right set of wheels.

I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I've been waiting for a diesel car with all that fixed for a looooooong time.

Yeah, I know. I got really excited over the diesel GM built for their half-ton trucks, only to have them kill the project before it ever went into production. Even if they had built it, it was projected to tack on something like another $6K onto the price of the truck, which is way too much damn money.

I have seen Ford Rangers overseas with small turbodiesels and manual transmissions. I know that the EPA makes diesel production in the US a bitch, but is it really just not possible to get something like that over here without a ridiculous price tag?