Belly up to the Bar (aka The Post Whorin' Thread)

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Dave

I've said the same thing about iraq

So here's a thought: did shin really betray the red dragons? Or had vicious ordered him to assist spike in his journey to the final confrontation? Or in a third option, did vicious know what he would do and let him live? He doesn't miss much

I think Vicious simply didn't see him as a threat, which is probably closer to your third option. Vicious was clearly doing everything to draw Spike toward that confrontation and if letting Shin live and assist Spike fit into that plan, so much the better.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

I think Vicious simply didn't see him as a threat, which is probably closer to your third option. Vicious was clearly doing everything to draw Spike toward that confrontation and if letting Shin live and assist Spike fit into that plan, so much the better.

But then why try to kill gren (twice) in jupiter jazz? Another epic set of lines there:

"Vicious! Lin died protecting you, his soul is lost!" "He wasn't protecting me, he was protecting the order."

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Dave

But then why try to kill gren (twice) in jupiter jazz? Another epic set of lines there:

"Vicious! Lin died protecting you, his soul is lost!" "He wasn't protecting me, he was protecting the order."

Good point. Honestly, I'd have to go back and re-watch it (yet again) to try to find all the possible motivations.
Actually, if I remember, didn't Gren have something over Vicious? Like some information or some sort of debt from the past?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

Good point. Honestly, I'd have to go back and re-watch it (yet again) to try to find all the possible motivations.
Actually, if I remember, didn't Gren have something over Vicious? Like some information or some sort of debt from the past?

I don't remember if there was or not. It'd only explain one attempt though