motogp fun with numbers. the yamaha m1

[Dave]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Dave

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

Four 250gp titles say yes

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Dave

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

Well pretend Rossi and Burgess had not been there, dropped out whatever. Yamaha and Biaggi had seen the limit of their development and that same year Honda fielded a horde of RCVs due to Rossi being at Yamaha, which we are pretending didnt happen.

does max win that title??Not sure.

I say the bike was there due to Rossi signing and his feedback. I say they won the title that year due to Yamaha taking a new direction under Burgess and Rossi's input. The success of the cross plane had alot to do with Burgess' tuning on Rossi's feedback. No Rossi, no cross plane, no Burgess, no championship, IMHO.

[Amber Lamps]

There is one factor you all are forgetting Rossi Sponsor Money... money talks and bull shit walks.