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Old 02-12-2011, 07:16 AM   #1
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I have recurring nightmares about this happening, especially after replacing chains
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Old 02-12-2011, 10:28 AM   #2
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Man, we have had this discussion....


I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.

I have never honestly had this happen nor have I personally seen this happen. I am FAR from being a chain maintenance fiend. Heck, I maybe, lube my chain every oil change (no bs) or when I want it to look good. I definitely don't adjust it much, maybe twice a season or when I change the rear tire. In fact, almost never other than tire changes and not always then.
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:10 PM   #3
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Man, we have had this discussion....


I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.

I have never honestly had this happen nor have I personally seen this happen. I am FAR from being a chain maintenance fiend. Heck, I maybe, lube my chain every oil change (no bs) or when I want it to look good. I definitely don't adjust it much, maybe twice a season or when I change the rear tire. In fact, almost never other than tire changes and not always then.
The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:14 PM   #4
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The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.
Wait...omg...we AGREE on something! Shit, get your loved ones, this was the 7th sign of the apocalypse!
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Old 02-12-2011, 04:24 PM   #5
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The o-rings seal the grease in your chain anyway. The only benefit I can see to lubing and cleaning it is to stop corrosion.
It's to keep the o-rings from drying out.
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Old 02-14-2011, 12:44 PM   #6
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I've never done a clutch in a car let alone a bike so I'd have no idea where to begin.
WAY easier in a bike than a Car.

As for Chain Maintenance, I can be pretty bad at it sometimes. When I'm taking care of a chain I've put on I try to keep it clean once in a while but then I spray on a bit of Chain Wax which defeats the purpose of cleaning it. By the end of the day the Chain Wax turns black from all the dirt sticking to it. I really dont think it's doing much for the life of the Chain. I might go the route of a few people I've met who do nothing but keep the chain clean. No real lubing to speak of.
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Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.
Well you can't say "Everytime" anymore

I've lost a chain (Maybe I should say "Almost lost"? You decide.)

A. I already admitted my chain maintenance can be weak...My sprockets were fine though.

B. The Chain was properly installed...With a Clip Link. (It was on a 600 Bandit. I still have nothing against this method in some applications.)

C. The Chain was showing wear and getting stiff near the Master Link.

Now, first of all, this was all my fault. When I bought the chain I was in a hurry to get it on because I had a weekend ride planned. When it came in they sent the wrong master link. The dealership I ordered it from managed to dig up pieces of 2 other master links. Both the same Manufacturer as the chain but one side plate was from another model of chain. I checked them over and decided it would work. I put it together and it did. It worked so well I never bothered to replace it, just kept an eye on it. This lasted for tens of thousands of KMs. Then I noticed the Master link starting to get stiff. At that point I started looking for a deal on a new chain. One weekend though I was out for a ride and noticed a vibration. I pulled over and found half the Clip broken off. (Like it had been hit with something?) We were about 1.5 hours from home but luckily near a Suzuki dealer and they gave me a Clip free of charge. I put it on and headed for home, stopping often to check it. We were about 20 minutes from home and it still looked fine so we decided to head straight home since my friend was feeling sick. I pulled in my driveway and looked at the chain only to find no clip at all. I poked it with my finger a couple of times and the chain fell off. Close call.

Wow that was long winded.
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Old 02-14-2011, 05:32 PM   #7
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Well you can't say "Everytime" anymore
Cool! An honest person!

I won't name any names but there's a guy that keeps posting pics of a jacked up rusty looking chain that supposedly broke when it was perfectly cared for, maintained and was well with in spec for stretching...
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Old 02-25-2011, 09:53 PM   #8
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Man, we have had this discussion....


I know that it happens but I really can't wrap my mind around it. Every time someone loses a chain they,

A. ALWAYS claim that the chain and sprockets were perfectly maintained and that the chain was correctly adjusted.

B. ALWAYS claim that the chain was correctly installed using a rivet link and the proper tools.

C. ALWAYS claim that the chain wasn't showing ANY signs of wear, kinks nor was worn/stretched out.
Hey! I never said any of that! The rear sprocket is the original which still looks fine and the front is under 10K. I'm not sure how many miles were on the chain but, it was rusted and I think it was a master-link style that was on the bike when I got it which the replacement chain is also a master-link.
As for maintenance, I learned years ago from factory work that lube in dusty environments turns the lube into grinding compound! I just clean it with wd-40 every now and then with a plastic brush. It's a KLR650 so, it's not that rough on chains like my turbo was!
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