Erik Making a New Streetbike

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Dave

Im not the fool who did

No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

[Mikey]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

Not only race and win, but ditch a whole bunch of his "groundbreaking, revolutionary design" along the way. What happened to perimeter brakes and belt drive on the race bikes?

As far as I'm concerned, Buell has zero credibility on the racetrack. I thought some of his street machines were cool, but nothing he's ever built was technically superior to the stuff coming out of Japan or Europe.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

No shit! He comes out claiming to have made a "better sport bike" and then cries whenever anyone compares his product to the existing units. They didn't hesitate to crow from the rafters when a Buell won DSB, "We took on the best that Japan could offer and WON!!!!" Then whenever anyone points out that his bike was an1100 vs 600s, we're being unfair to compare his small company against the Japanese.... Again he claims to have improved the gendre, the only.way to prove it is to race and win. Period.

I always thought he was talking about building a better 'street' bike.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I always thought he was talking about building a better 'street' bike.

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right? I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right? I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?

yup. those elitist ads were practically unbearable. im sure he lost fans with the blast nonsense as well.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right? I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?

I would think given his current situation its easier building race bikes vs mass producing street bikes, or making boutique bikes like bimota or mv agusta.

Seems like he has his supporters as well as detractors, but unless he hooked up with a major manufacturer it would be tough to mass produce a cutting edge sport bike the way the big 4 do. If I am not mistaken dont the big 4 take a hit on the sport bikes compared to the rest of their machines?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by tommymac

I would think given his current situation its easier building race bikes vs mass producing street bikes, or making boutique bikes like bimota or mv agusta.

Seems like he has his supporters as well as detractors, but unless he hooked up with a major manufacturer it would be tough to mass produce a cutting edge sport bike the way the big 4 do. If I am not mistaken dont the big 4 take a hit on the sport bikes compared to the rest of their machines?

i think almost everything sold here is at a loss. cept maybe the 250 ninja.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Initially (S1 Lightning, etc) perhaps but if that's the case, stay the fuck off the track...right? I remember A LOT of shit talking when the 1125 was first introduced... Don't bring a dog to the horse race and expect the organizers to make special rules for you... What is this an episode of "Pinks" or something?

Everybody has the same rules... I think I should complain, not about Erik bringing nearly twice the displacement, but rather for the big 4 not taking advantage of that rule... I just want more v-twin bikes.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Everybody has the same rules... I think I should complain, not about Erik bringing nearly twice the displacement, but rather for the big 4 not taking advantage of that rule... I just want more v-twin bikes.

A rule that exists in an obscure little series in a country that's no longer a target demographic that will probably exist only one year? I'm sure they're getting right on that

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Dave

A rule that exists in an obscure little series in a country that's no longer a target demographic that will probably exist only one year? I'm sure they're getting right on that

Exactly. So why does everyone bitch?