New car for me.?.?. UPDATED 2012 Volvo C30 R-design

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by derf

You are talking about basically a rental fleet, people abuse those cars worse than anything else, I give your opinion no consideration whatsoever.

I'm the opposite - I figure if a car can go through that it can go through anything I could possibly throw at it.

[derf]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I'm the opposite - I figure if a car can go through that it can go through anything I could possibly throw at it.

When was the last time you saw a rental car with more than 40 or 50k miles? Or more than a few years old? You dont because companies realize that as rentals the cars start costing more in maintenance at that point than they would be to replace with a newer model. It doesnt matter what kind of car it is dropping from N to D with the engine spinning at 6k will destroy it.

incidently I was extremely scared to drive the last cobalt I rented, it made noises that I never would have expected to hear come out of a car.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by derf

incidently I was extremely scared to drive the last cobalt I rented, it made noises that I never would have expected to hear come out of a car.

lol...

One thing that's very common with GM FWD cars is a "hollow" noise when driving over bumps. Makes you think a control arm is about to fall off.

[derf]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

lol...

One thing that's very common with GM FWD cars is a "hollow" noise when driving over bumps. Makes you think a control arm is about to fall off.

No, I mean that when I started it up there was a small clacking sound that got worse after 5 minutes. The clacking turned into a steady stream of metallic clanking sounds. The only way that I can really describe the sound is that it was like a thousand really tiny garden gnomes wearing steel condoms where anally raping the engine to the tune of old mcdonald. I wound up bringing the car back because I really thought that it would leave me on the side of the road. The car had less than 10k on it.

The hollow wurring suspension noise is normal for FWD GM.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by derf

No, I mean that when I started it up there was a small clacking sound that got worse after 5 minutes. The clacking turned into a steady stream of metallic clanking sounds. The only way that I can really describe the sound is that it was like a thousand really tiny garden gnomes wearing steel condoms where anally raping the engine to the tune of old mcdonald. I wound up bringing the car back because I really thought that it would leave me on the side of the road. The car had less than 10k on it.

The hollow wurring suspension noise is normal for FWD GM.

Sounds like the EVAP cannister purge solenoid. You will hear it when the engine is started because the commanded duty cycle is high. I'm guessing it's mounted close to the firewall.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by derf

When was the last time you saw a rental car with more than 40 or 50k miles? Or more than a few years old? You dont because companies realize that as rentals the cars start costing more in maintenance at that point than they would be to replace with a newer model.....

It's more to do with residual value, then maintenance. Most cars today will go 100k miles before any services are needed and and most fleets will replace only the front tires and never rotate them to save replacing the rear.