Why dont people keep service records?

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Weak fucking sauce.

Sometimes I think you people just take the opposite side just to disagree.

You're gonna tell me if you put like lets say a slipper clutch in your bike, you would throw away the receipt? Somehow I think not. But ok, let's entertain that idea. Let's say 3 months later you lose your job and are forced to sell the bike. You know, unexpected things happen sometimes. So now all of a sudden you can't "run it into the ground" anymore. You've got to sell it, and you want a potential buyer to know that you upgraded it with a fairly desirable mod. 'Cept you can't because you threw away the receipt. Real intelligent.

Even withthe receipt I cant see the slipper adding a whole lot of value to the overall product, its jus tlike any other mod in that you wont get your money back. He would be better off taking it out and selling it separately

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by tommymac

Even withthe receipt I cant see the slipper adding a whole lot of value to the overall product, its jus tlike any other mod in that you wont get your money back. He would be better off taking it out and selling it separately

For me the mods pretty much lowered the value of the bike. Before I bought the R6 new (I miss that bike) I was looking used, as soon as I seen a list of mods I would move on to the next bike listed. Without knowing the bike/owner/who did the work I didn't want to touch the bike.

James

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by tommymac

Even withthe receipt I cant see the slipper adding a whole lot of value to the overall product, its jus tlike any other mod in that you wont get your money back. He would be better off taking it out and selling it separately

Disagree, I have seen plenty of bikes & cars "get more" because they were tastefully modded. If I know that I would have installed those same mods, then it's worth extra money because now I don't have to do so.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Disagree, I have seen plenty of bikes & cars "get more" because they were tastefully modded. If I know that I would have installed those same mods, then it's worth extra money because now I don't have to do so.

A slipper would scare me off buying a bike. I'd rather think it was stock. Something internal like that, it better be a damn good mechanic that you are buying the bike from if they did it themselves.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Trip

A slipper would scare me off buying a bike. I'd rather think it was stock. Something internal like that, it better be a damn good mechanic that you are buying the bike from if they did it themselves.

The question was in general. Someone mods their bike, and it could be either themselves, or a shop, that did it. You don't know yet until you ask.

Take a BMW car for example. Let's say you're looking for one, and you know you'd install a Dinan kit on it if you bought one. Someone comes along who has a Dinan BMW, and has the receipt from the dealer who installed the kit.

Let's say the market value of that car is $20K.......and the Dinan kit normally costs $3K........So he lists the car for $22K saying that the Dinan kit makes it worth more than market. I might not agree with $22K, but I might be willing to pay $21K instead of $20K. Because now I've gotten a $3K Dinan kit for only $1K.

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The question was in general. Someone mods their bike, and it could be either themselves, or a shop, that did it. You don't know yet until you ask.

Take a BMW car for example. Let's say you're looking for one, and you know you'd install a Dinan kit on it if you bought one. Someone comes along who has a Dinan BMW, and has the receipt from the dealer who installed the kit.

Let's say the market value of that car is $20K.......and the Dinan kit normally costs $3K........So he lists the car for $22K saying that the Dinan kit makes it worth more than market. I might not agree with $22K, but I might be willing to pay $21K instead of $20K. Because now I've gotten a $3K Dinan kit for only $1K.

All of that can be done without a receipt. Your also getting away from your original point.

But looking at your new point you have to look at the parts installed. Think about the age of part. Is it a wear item? Brakes for example would be worth X amount of dollars new in the box but as the wear the value drops fast. If the upgrade included calipers then some value would remain but you would have to decide how much.

What if a kit was installed early on and the car is now 3 years old? Your $2000 worth of savings doesn't seem so good to me at that point. Why? Well if shocks are part of the kit they now have 3 years worth of wear and so do the other parts. Did the owner like to drive the car hard with his new mods? In my case I would rather try to get the stock car for under $20000 if I could and then get the brand new kit installed.

In my case maybe I get the car for $19000 and pay full price for the kit. Now I'm paying $1000 more but I have a car that may not have been driven hard, and I have brand new parts on it that might also have some improvements over the old design of the kit.

There are many ways to look at things.

James

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Disagree, I have seen plenty of bikes & cars "get more" because they were tastefully modded. If I know that I would have installed those same mods, then it's worth extra money because now I don't have to do so.

Thats what I said. Its worth what the buyer feels its worth. If it is in their price range, has mods they don't hate and they can't afford to do the mods they really want then it might be worth it to them.

A lot of people want to do it their way. I have a friend that was selling a CRX back in the day and he had some buyers walk because of some of his mods.

As far as internal mods go you could be hurting the value. Rims you can sell and replace. Finding out someone screwed up installing an internal part can end up being an expensive fix.

Receipts only matter to some.

Mods only matter to some.

If you like keeping receipts for yourself then do so. But don't be surprised that not everyone does so. And don't let the stack of papers in the fancy binder with plastic sleeves blind you. Look the car over before every getting glossy eyed over some fancy binder.

Even the most well kept car can break the day after you buy it.

James

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Disagree, I have seen plenty of bikes & cars "get more" because they were tastefully modded. If I know that I would have installed those same mods, then it's worth extra money because now I don't have to do so.

I am seeing this more from the point of track bikes, many have tons of mods done to them, most are well maintained but the sellers arent getting anywhere near what thye put into them.