2012 Civic Scores too Low to be "Recommended by Consumer Reports"

[Mikey]

Economy platforms do not translate well to performance. FWD+soft suspension+anemic 4-cyl engines != performance.

Nobody sets out to build a performance car and uses a 4cyl FWD softly-suspended platform as their starting point.

There is no such thing as a FWD, 4cyl performance car, no matter what Honda tells you. The Civic Si is not a sports car; it's an economy car that gets shitty mileage.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Mikey

Economy platforms do not translate well to performance. FWD+soft suspension+anemic 4-cyl engines != performance.

Nobody sets out to build a performance car and uses a 4cyl FWD softly-suspended platform as their starting point.

There is no such thing as a FWD, 4cyl performance car, no matter what Honda tells you. The Civic Si is not a sports car; it's an economy car that gets shitty mileage.

Nobody is saying Civics are sports cars. A sports car is built from scratch, and doesn't share its platform with any other model. Examples: Corvette, Miata, Elise, etc.

But "performance car" simply means any car that is marketed to people who desire high performance attributes. Period. Nobody "sets out" to build a performance car, rather they take an existing car (typically a family sedan) and modify it to give it more performance. That includes WRX's, Taurus SHO's, Focus SVT's, and yes the Civic Si. There is no textbook definition saying a performance car must have RWD or a certain 0-60 figure.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Nobody is saying Civics are sports cars.

Can you explain that to the idiots with the plastic picnic table bolted to their trunks?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Can you explain that to the idiots with the plastic picnic table bolted to their trunks?

See that is the only reason I think people hate Civics.......not because it sucks but because of all the ricers. In reality a Focus isn't any better than a Civic, but it doesn't get hated on because not very many Focus owners rice it out.