Clutchless Upshifting

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

I power it up in first... or second... and sometimes 3rd...
it's fun

Yea,he's got an older 750...I think the new GSXR750 will power up in 2nd. My bike will power up in third if you're doing over 100 mph to start with.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea,he's got an older 750...I think the new GSXR750 will power up in 2nd. My bike will power up in third if you're doing over 100 mph to start with.

yeah, i just love my V twin.

though the 08 1K can power it up a bit in 4th, if you blip it, pull on the bars and put your weight back just right... at 100+ no less...

[No Worries]

I'm curious as to what happens if you miss the clutchless upshift? I mean, what if you don't preload the shifter enough? What if you preload it too much? What if you don't roll off the throttle enough? What if you roll too much? Neutral? Grinding? Upshift two gears? Stay in the same gear?

I'm too settled in my clutch ways not to use it. The nanosecond I lose by using the clutch I'll make up on the next curve. Anyway, I like to upshift at my bike's torque peak. How many riders know their bike's torque peak?

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by No Worries

I'm curious as to what happens if you miss the clutchless upshift? I mean, what if you don't preload the shifter enough? What if you preload it too much? What if you don't roll off the throttle enough? What if you roll too much? Neutral? Grinding? Upshift two gears? Stay in the same gear?

I'm too settled in my clutch ways not to use it. The nanosecond I lose by using the clutch I'll make up on the next curve. Anyway, I like to upshift at my bike's torque peak. How many riders know their bike's torque peak?

Depends... Grinding sometimes... most of the time you don't shift.

[Crazy]

NW im not saying u should do it regularly but you sound like you've never done it before... so i'd suggest at least try it once.
I didnt do it so I can shave a few milliseconds off my shift time, I did it just out of curiosity.

[ceo012384]

Originally Posted by No Worries

I'm curious as to what happens if you miss the clutchless upshift? I mean, what if you don't preload the shifter enough? What if you preload it too much? What if you don't roll off the throttle enough? What if you roll too much? Neutral? Grinding? Upshift two gears? Stay in the same gear?

I'm too settled in my clutch ways not to use it. The nanosecond I lose by using the clutch I'll make up on the next curve. Anyway, I like to upshift at my bike's torque peak. How many riders know their bike's torque peak?

If you miss the shift and/or don't preload the shifter enough, it just won't shift, and you'll hit the revlimiter.

If you preload too much, it may click into the next gear before you mean for it to... and doing clutchless upshifts without rolling off the throttle a hair may be not great for your tranny.



It may not be sensible/necessary for your bike if you're already used to it, and especially if your shift points are far below your redline.

For me and my bike, I clutchless upshift because if I clutched my shifts at the rpm where I do them (literally at the redline) not only would the shifts be slower, but I'd probably be nailing the revlimiter pretty often as I pull the clutch in.

The torque peak of my bike requires you to rip all the way through the meat of the torque curve and past the peak, such that your upshift causes the next gear to land right back in the meat of the torque curve...

[Dnyce]

its sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth.... ..u barely move to do it, flick the wrist just barely, tweak the ankle alil... ROOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!R OOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

[dReWpY]

i got the clutchless down shift down this weekend, buttery smooth, even the first time

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by drewpy

i got the clutchless down shift down this weekend, buttery smooth, even the first time

Hey didn't I tell you that you aren't shift authorized ?

[Vettezilla (Impala Balko)]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea,he's got an older 750...I think the new GSXR750 will power up in 2nd. My bike will power up in third if you're doing over 100 mph to start with.

I can get it to power up a little in 2nd If i really work the suspension it should come up but I would rather clutch it. Its more predictable and easier to control