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Old 08-05-2008, 02:45 PM   #1
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What Rae said is equally important. Make sure your tires are good and warm. I went slower than shit on the first couple laps to make sure I had sufficient heat in the tires. I'll be damned if I'm gonna crash b/c of cold tires. That is completely avoidable.
Agreed.

However after I did that I was a huge pussy about getting my tires warm unnecessarily. Then afterwards as I got my speed up and became more relaxed I started to be able to really 'feel' when they were sticking, plus hard braking and accel gets them nice and hot.

Now I'm knee down in turn 6 when pit in is by turn 2 (and turn 5 isn't really a turn). After a little less than one lap I'm full out now...


That's with Corsa III's, btw. They heat up pretty fast.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:06 PM   #2
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Agreed.

However after I did that I was a huge pussy about getting my tires warm unnecessarily. Then afterwards as I got my speed up and became more relaxed I started to be able to really 'feel' when they were sticking, plus hard braking and accel gets them nice and hot.

Now I'm knee down in turn 6 when pit in is by turn 2 (and turn 5 isn't really a turn). After a little less than one lap I'm full out now...


That's with Corsa III's, btw. They heat up pretty fast.
I've got Corsa III's on the Buell. No issues with heat up time. I'd go full deal jones on lap 2 with them....no question.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:29 PM   #3
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by lap 3 on my PP's I am comfortable going full out and could manage lap 2, but for a total newb who cant feel the difference, those few laps could make or break him... Ive seen too many senseless crashes now for something silly like cold tires to even think about risking it and pushing too early...
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:35 PM   #4
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by lap 3 on my PP's I am comfortable going full out and could manage lap 2, but for a total newb who cant feel the difference, those few laps could make or break him... Ive seen too many senseless crashes now for something silly like cold tires to even think about risking it and pushing too early...
Yep. I have Pirelli DOTs- never ridden on them. I'll take it slow. But even cold, they have to grip better than the sport-touring tread I'm used to.
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Old 08-05-2008, 03:38 PM   #5
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Yep. I have Pirelli DOTs- never ridden on them. I'll take it slow. But even cold, they have to grip better than the sport-touring tread I'm used to.
Why did you go with DOTs? It takes a lot more to heat those up and you really got to be pushing it for them to reach ideal temp without tire warmers. Not the best choice for a first track day especially if you are in novice and spend a lot of time in the first few sessions not even heating the tires up.
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Why did you go with DOTs? It takes a lot more to heat those up and you really got to be pushing it for them to reach ideal temp without tire warmers. Not the best choice for a first track day especially if you are in novice and spend a lot of time in the first few sessions not even heating the tires up.
I agree sweetie, if you got DOT's def take it easy till at least midday or afternoon. In novice you wont be pushing nearly hard enough to warm them up and get them sticky.

Are they already broken in?
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Yep. I have Pirelli DOTs- never ridden on them. I'll take it slow. But even cold, they have to grip better than the sport-touring tread I'm used to.
i have ran those before, money of a tire, loved it only got >1500 out of them before they were shot, but they were awesome tires...
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i have ran those before, money of a tire, loved it only got >1500 out of them before they were shot, but they were awesome tires...
1,500 track miles is plenty. Even at a "green flag" event where you're out all day, mileage doesn't add up that fast.
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1,500 track miles is plenty. Even at a "green flag" event where you're out all day, mileage doesn't add up that fast.
never said 1500 track miles... mostly gap miles
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1,500 track miles is plenty. Even at a "green flag" event where you're out all day, mileage doesn't add up that fast.
yeah dont expect 1500 track miles, its more like 3 or 4 days if you aren't hard on them depending on how tough your tech is.
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